Steve Clarke has JUDGED you all!

[wags]

No. This is not the token. But your ears are pointy.

Cat

Live Long and Prosper! woof!

[DavidG]

Unclean Fruitybat aside.....I spoke with Trickfox(or one of Linda's neighbors...who knows now?) several times, and he said to look for the signal in the noise.....not sure what he meant there, but he did say the gravitor was something of an antenna or communication device....if I understood him properly.

Not sure about any of the other stuff discussed here....just thought I'd share that since Trickfox came up...

Cheers!

[Mikado14]

Unclean Fruitybat aside.....I spoke with Trickfox(or one of Linda's neighbors...who knows now?) several times, and he said to look for the signal in the noise.....not sure what he meant there, but he did say the gravitor was something of an antenna or communication device....if I understood him properly.

Not sure about any of the other stuff discussed here....just thought I'd share that since Trickfox came up...

Cheers!

Trickfox was Raymond Lavas and he lived in Quebec City, Quebec, Canada. He was born in Canada and fled there when the crap hit the fan with Mike Riconsuito. He said so much in one of his drunken stupors enhanced with a bit of the weed.

You more than likely were talking with him when in one of those states. The Gravitor is no more a radiator of a signal than a coil. Just as a coil will radiate a TEM signal, the Gravitor, according to Brown, will radiate a longitudinal wave.

Mikado

[DavidG]

Yes, I've read all that, and he mentioned it once on the phone....glad to hear from a trustworthy source he was real...I enjoyed our talks.

He said he was in Quebec then.

Longitudinal wave eh? That's very interesting.

Thanks Mikado.

Cheers!

[Nancy_Hutchison]

Unclean Fruitybat aside.....I spoke with Trickfox(or one of Linda's neighbors...who knows now?) several times, and he said to look for the signal in the noise.....not sure what he meant there, but he did say the gravitor was something of an antenna or communication device....if I understood him properly.

Not sure about any of the other stuff discussed here....just thought I'd share that since Trickfox came up...

Cheers!

My (now deceased) brother had a device that he sold to auto repair shops. My listening to the static coming from the battery of the vehicle, he could determine what problems were happening in the engine.

John always say, "The information is in the static."
Static--a pause, no movement
so is the information ins the pause, between the "noise"?

Nancy

[Mikado14]

Unclean Fruitybat aside.....I spoke with Trickfox(or one of Linda's neighbors...who knows now?) several times, and he said to look for the signal in the noise.....not sure what he meant there, but he did say the gravitor was something of an antenna or communication device....if I understood him properly.

Not sure about any of the other stuff discussed here....just thought I'd share that since Trickfox came up...

Cheers!

My (now deceased) brother had a device that he sold to auto repair shops. My listening to the static coming from the battery of the vehicle, he could determine what problems were happening in the engine.

John always say, "The information is in the static."
Static--a pause, no movement
so is the information ins the pause, between the "noise"?

Nancy

Please post a link to the device or other info.

Mikado

[Nancy_Hutchison]

Unclean Fruitybat aside.....I spoke with Trickfox(or one of Linda's neighbors...who knows now?) several times, and he said to look for the signal in the noise.....not sure what he meant there, but he did say the gravitor was something of an antenna or communication device....if I understood him properly.

Not sure about any of the other stuff discussed here....just thought I'd share that since Trickfox came up...

Cheers!

My (now deceased) brother had a device that he sold to auto repair shops. My listening to the static coming from the battery of the vehicle, he could determine what problems were happening in the engine.

John always say, "The information is in the static."
Static--a pause, no movement
so is the information ins the pause, between the "noise"?

Nancy

Please post a link to the device or other info.

Mikado

The device was called the "Engine Stethoscope". Precision Tune was one of the customers.
My family is big on "getting patents". He had a few concerning this device.
name: William Kayser
if you do a patent search, you may find it
My (half) brother always told me to never disclose the "real secret" in a patent, only enough to protect you if they "get close". There was a big broohaha with Delphi trying to take his device. Delphi made a bunch of promises, Bill signed over the patent, then Delphi didn't come through on their part of the deal. Bill wasn't overly concerned, he created a new patent, with more info, but never the actual "secret".

so....in listening to what my brother said about patents, I tend to look at what is at the patent office as incomplete...and the reason something rarely works when you duplicate it from a patent.

Bill had been working with people who were using water for fuel in a gasoline engine. He would go to their office/workshop and take readings to analyze the efficiency of the modified engines. One day he went to their office and the door was cracked open. Desks were turned over, computers missing, papers strewn everywhere.

At the same time we were in a difficult court case, in the middle of exposing corruption in government, payoffs to judges, etc.

Then Bill suddenly dropped dead.in the front yard of his home.
Autopsy said the electrical impulse to his heart had "stopped".

BTW--Bill got the idea from his deceased father in a dream. Bill had many dreams and conversations with his deceased father.

Nancy

[wags]

This really resonated and I think it worth commenting on:-

"I have seen that sometimes when a certain type of person finds themselves unable to navigate a llfe situation, that they just find a reason (or excuse depending which side of the fence one is sitting) to give up and blame other people for the resultant failure.


Or they simply are not able to make an objective conclusion because all the relevant information has been corrupted or communication has become disrupted by deliberate reality distortions. Disputes occur, what really counts is how to deal with these things. The main thing is to always act in good faith, and if that fails then I guess...

Because their actions are based on dishonesty (sometimes, even, mendacity) this approach only works if they WALK AWAY from the situation, otherwise reality will intervene at some point and call them out.

I would rephrase but the concept is still retained:

If actions towards you are based on deliberate denial of deceit then the only option is to walk away, The choice to walk is yours as much as theirs.

OF course, sometimes one finds oneself in a situation where you are the only truthful person in the room/forum/society/club and then walking away is a simple act of self preservation.

Concur, but instead of only truthful, replace with "only person acting in good faith for all concerned"

If the other party does not act in good faith and consider your position, then indeed walking away is an act of self preservation.

[StarCat]

Sometimes I feel like the various people involved in electrogravitics research are all on the same highway, but driving different cars. But instead of just driving, they spend time trying to get around each other, and then traffic gets tangled. Why not just enjoy the journey of exploration? I guess it just saddens me that people don't get along, and that skeletons are pulled out of closets for what does not appear to be any productive reason.

Cat

[re-rose]

Sometimes I feel like the various people involved in electrogravitics research are all on the same highway, but driving different cars. But instead of just driving, they spend time trying to get around each other, and then traffic gets tangled. Why not just enjoy the journey of exploration? I guess it just saddens me that people don't get along, and that skeletons are pulled out of closets for what does not appear to be any productive reason.

Cat

I dunno, Cat. All I see is an unnecessarily stinky snarl.

I don't know for sure, but it appears to me that Batty and Wags are trying to find a balance point that allows them to agree to disagree.

jmho
rose