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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:20 pm

To those still intent on keeping up with this subject :

On May 2014, the respected and international medical reference “National Cancer Institute” published an article called “Cannabis and Cannabinoids “, supported with 39 Studies (one of which, btw, is co-authored by Prof. Cristina Sanchez, whom I contacted towards a recommendation to obtain commercial CBD).

Under its “Laboratory/Animal/Preclinical Studies” tab, one can read :

- One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors
- Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis invasion and metastasis
- Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death.
- An in vitro study of the effect of CBD on programmed cell death in breast cancer cell lines found that CBD induced programmed cell death, independent of the CB1, CB2, or vanilloid receptors. CBD inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor–positive and estrogen receptor–negative breast cancer cell lines, inducing apoptosis in a concentration-dependent manner while having little effect on nontumorigenic, mammary cells.
- CBD has also been demonstrated to exert a chemopreventive effect in a mouse model of colon cancer
- In in vitro experiments involving colorectal cancer cell lines, the investigators found that CBD protected DNA from oxidative damage, increased endocannabinoid levels, and reduced cell proliferation.
- CBD may also enhance uptake of cytotoxic drugs into malignant cells. This suggests that coadministration of CBD with cytotoxic agents may increase drug uptake and potentiate cell death in human glioma cells.
- Cannabinoids may also contribute to pain modulation through an anti-inflammatory mechanism


Not only Amazing …. but Fascinating !

And keep in mind the date of these “appear to ”, “may cause” and “may have”: May 2014. Meaning, “and so it begins …” ? For we’re still in the “Animal/Preclinical Studies” domain.

Perhaps not due to chance, a US company, called “Inergetics” (a “a leading developer of nutritional supplements”), this August 2014, announced the “beginning of the second phase of development towards the launch of its proprietary line of natural cannabidiol (CBD)-based nutritional supplements”.

Also perhaps not due to chance, a Canadian company, called “Global Hemp Group”, this July 2014, announced “that the first tranche of the non-brokered private placement announced May 15, 2014 is now closed”, meaning (to me, that is !) … time has come to get greedy . Their “Business Philosophy”? to market “products that will be recognized as leading global brands, it will operate in the automotive, building materials, biocomposites, energy-related markets, food” (and, yes, you got it) “ nutritional supplements & nutriceuticals, and pharmaceuticals markets”.

Also, how about an organization called “Project CBD” ? Their site can be found here http://www.projectcbd.org/ and I have not been able to ascertain their inception, but their “copyright” is from 2014. It is a very useful tool for to understand CBD … and also for US people to know where and to whom they can buy the substance. Worth (definitely) a check.

All this to say,
No, there’s not only smoke in this.
And time will tell ….


Full NCI article here : http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/ ... onal/page4

Inergetics announcement here : http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 84171.html

Global Hemp announcement here : http://globalhempgroup.com/global-hemp- ... financing/
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:03 am

I am most interested Luis, especially with your own observations as to how the hemp oil helps your parents. Keep us updated!
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:47 pm

Tx, Soloman.
I will.

For clarification purposes, they are not taking "hemp oil", meaning, hempseed.
They have started, and are, taking "CBD extract" oil from Hemp, at 2,9 % concentration.

Now into second week of 5 drops per day. Next week - and for another - it'll increase to 10 drops per day.
After this first month is over, it'll increase to the commercially "prescribed" 15 drops per day, or 1 ml daily.

This is the "prescription" I self prescribed to them. No hurry. Take it easy. And walk before you run.

What I can, for now, report is this : They are taking it, and my father says he is sleeping better. My mother has not noticed any changes, "maybe wanting to eat more".

Then again, the changes I'm hoping for are not those they would notice.
Only their cells will.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:28 pm

Brief dip just to say that both my parents are now ending their first 10 drops a day week of Hemp's CBD extract oil, following 2 weeks of 5 drops a day.

Both are fine.
No ill second effects. Quite the contrary, really, far as "sleeping better" and "more appetite" go. Still a week to go before they reach the 15 daily drops, or 1 ml per day recommended dose.

Since I've been taking regular Hempseed Oil for almost the same time (half a tablespoon worth of it gulped daily) and since I also noticed that I "sleep better" and had "more appetite", I'd like to register the fact that this latter effect has now vanished for quite some time and am by now eating my "regular" intake of food (first 4 days were, though, quite another thing, got really stupidly famished and for the first time in my professional life, I ate at the job, working !).

As to the former, another bell rings.
I am, in fact, sleeping better. This is quite a change, I can say by now. Not that I used to sleep bad, but it was not as "deep" and I did not wake as "ready".

Why ? I gulp it at dinner time, so has it some "soporific effect" that puts one under ? Doubt it. Why ? Because I breathe better.

I smoke. And as all heavy smokers know (more than 10 coffin nails per day, that's my definition) your nose gets clumped (if only the nose !) and you lose taste in your food. After a few years of heavy smoking, it's chronic and one has not only abandoned the realm of the savoury food chemistry inside our mouth, one has also a clumpy nose at night.

My nose has cleared a lot. Not so "clumpy". Matter of fact, surprisingly "unclumpy" !

So if I breathe better maybe that's exactly why I sleep better, because, well, yes, I breathe along a lot better .

Now why has this happened with my nose ? Can say - without the slightest hesitation - that nothing has changed in my habits except having started to take this Hempseed oil, so quite naturally ... I give it credit. But why ?

Only hope it is clearing other stuff besides my nose ...

Now that's my report for now.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby FM No Static At All » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:44 pm

I was a 'heavy' smoker and smoking cannabis had only a mildly positive effect. However once I started 'vaping' instead of smoking it, I noticed that I could breathe better also. And less irritation of the throat was also noticed. I do agree that foods taste better when not using tobacco and cannabis enhances the experience.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby FM No Static At All » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:26 am

Hemp oil (CBD) is now available in vape form!

http://healthyconsumerinsights.com/v5/i ... ff_sub2=53

(Health Review) -If you haven't already heard, Cannabidiol (CBD) is a non-psychoactive component of Cannabis that has a wide range of therapeutic benefits. CBD is naturally occurring in the Hemp plant and according to the United States own government patent #6,630,507 it supports the nutritional health of aging bodies. Canabanoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease.

A few of the benefits claimed from using Cannabidiol (CBD):

Helps reduce anxiety
Reverses damage causes by alcohol
Has been shown to suppress colon cancer tumors in mice and to kill breast cancer cells in lab studies
Has anti-inflammatory, neuro-protective, and anti-oxidant properties
No prescription
Legal in all 50 States


We decided to see what expert medical doctors and product users had to say about Cannabidiol (CBD), and the results were surprising. In fact, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a neurosurgeon, a medical professor and an Emmy award-winning chief medical correspondent for CNN concluded "...The science is there. This isn't anecdotal. We have been terribly and systematically misled for nearly 70 years in the United States.."


Get a Free vapor e-cig with your paid order!



It doesn't have a high potential for abuse, and there are very legitimate medical applications.

CBD uses proven, natural ingredients that are toxin-free. CBD is 100% natural and does not contain any dangerous or synthetic chemicals or stimulants.

The best part of Cannabis CBD E-liquid is it does not contain THC. The THC is the chemical that gets Marijuana smokers "High." The fact is that the medicinal value of the plant, comes from the CBD, not the THC.

We also learned that most scientists agree that decreasing stress levels play a part in battling cancer, heart disease and other stress related illness.

A method of treating diseases caused by oxidative stress, comprising administering a therapeutically effective amount of a cannabinoid that has substantially no binding to the NMDA receptor to a subject who has a disease caused by oxidative stress. (reference US Patent 6630507 B1 link below) Wow... that's a tongue-twister - ALL YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS - IT WORKS!!

In November 2012 Tikun Olam, an Israeli medical cannabis facility, announced a new strain of the plant which has only cannabidoil as an active ingredient, and virtually no THC , providing some of the medicinal benefits of cannabis without euphoria (28)(29). The Researchers said the cannabis plant, enriched with CBD, "can be used for treating diseases like rheumatoid arthritis,colitis, liver inflammation, heart disease and diabetes." Cannabis CBD E-liquid is legally derived from the hemp plant.

Additional, preclinical studies suggest that CBD may have therapeutic benefits in the treatment of various conditions, including chronic pain, anxiety, nausea, rheumatoid arthritis, schizophrenia, diabetes, PTSD, alcoholism, strokes and cardiovascular disease, cancer, and other ailments.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:21 pm

Fred
I followed your link, tx for it. Which takes one to a commercial offer from a company called “trymiraclesmoke.com”, featured alongside the “article” it links to.

What caught my eye was the “10 ml - Contains 30% Hemp CBD extract” claim which you can read here : https://trymiraclesmoke.com/best-offer/ ... aign=ho:12

So I decided to dig a bit.
First, I tried their “site” (https://trymiraclesmoke.com/best-offer/) and all I got was the exact same commercial offering page.
Then, I tried “quastic.com” (http://www.quastic.com/). What I came up with, I post below an excerpt (you can read in full here : http://www.quastic.com/siteinfo/trymiraclesmoke.com)

“Review by Quastic”
“trymiraclesmoke.com is Hosted on Michigan, Lansing, United States, 48917”

“According to the registration date of trymiraclesmoke.com it is 2 months 3 weeks old. Alexa rank has given it a rank of #630,685 in the world. This domain is registered with .com TLD. The estimated worth of this website is $ 1,200.00 and the daily income of this site is around $ 5.00. Updated 1 second ago (Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:50:50 GMT)”

“Domain Registrar:
WILD WEST DOMAINS, LLC
Registration Date:
2014-06-25 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago
Last Modified:
2014-06-25 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago
Expiration Date:
2015-06-25 8 months 4 weeks 2 days from now”



Now,
All the info they present about CBD is correct, far as I also have been able to check as I went along on this thread. But to claim a 30% concentration inside a 10 ml bottle means around 3.000 mg of CBD in it (if my Math is correct) while my best find till now is an offer of around 1.500 mg inside a 50 ml bottle from a provider.

What I mean is this
I sure would appreciate some kind of validation for that claim, which they don’t offer except through their stating it.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:48 am

Turns out Pretty had three large stones in her bladder, poor girl. She is much happier now and so am I.

I have some pain off and on since Tabitha passed, even urinated blood one day after trying to do some work in the yard. Since Pretty had surgery, I feel lke I am feeling even better? I was not 100% on board with the empathy thing, however there may be something to it. I started Pretty again on the oil prior to surgery, she has been doing real well.

Luis, I had email communication with your guy, however they never got back to me with an English price sheet. I am pretty sure I would be making a purchase, shame I have not heard back from them after a couple of follow ups. How are your parents doing?

I recently too started using hemp seed oil, I actually really like it and have been doing a little oil pulling before I swallow it. I have a loose tooth, been thinking I am going to loose it. Since I started this, it seems stronger, still loose, it just does not feel as vulnerable as before.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby re-rose » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:09 pm

Good luck with the Tooth, Soloma. I think vitamin C is important to gum health, too, so dose up.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:11 pm

Soloma wrote:Luis, I had email communication with your guy, however they never got back to me with an English price sheet. I am pretty sure I would be making a purchase, shame I have not heard back from them after a couple of follow ups. How are your parents doing?

I recently too started using hemp seed oil, I actually really like it and have been doing a little oil pulling before I swallow it. I have a loose tooth, been thinking I am going to loose it. Since I started this, it seems stronger, still loose, it just does not feel as vulnerable as before.


Soloman
I too had a lot of trouble with prompt answering "ffrom Ze Germans" .... !
Those guys seem to be (ahem) a lot more interested with planting and harvesting than with "customer service" ! I mean, Stefan once replied "sorry for late answer but it is harvesting time", and so that's why I'm calling it .... nothing else !

It came to a point I sent my emails to 3 different boxes (people ?) hoping that one of them "got through".

These are the emails :
info@hanf-zeit.com
Christine@hanf-zeit.com
Stefan@hanf-zeit.com

Use them, and good luck !
One will, at some point, answer you.

As to my parents
I couldn't be happier. They're following the daily 1 ml/15 drops discipline and my father has started walking , which knowing him, means he feels better than he used to. He stopped walking not because he suddenly liked to watch a lot more tv or read an extra book, but because his legs hurt a lot after some 5 minutes of doing it. He is know walking - some days ! - close to 2 miles.
My mother only complains about the "oily" savour, which nauseates her a bit while gulping it down. As to the rest, no change at all. Still the same strong, open hearted, positive thinking and extremely driven woman that never complains, only says "this is how it is going to be ...", and then does it, regardless.

She's doing this only because I begged her to ... and also because my father did not object, truth be said, for If he hadn't sailed, she would have remained ashore. That kind of love, not that kind of "brain". She comes from a long line of strong women, so no big deal. Men have to keep the appearance of control, but they own the hands that control things. My brother-in-law would know what I'm talking about ... he married my sister, and she inherited "the genes".

Hey, but I'm talking my head off !! Sorry !

You take the oil, Soloman. And your C vitamin, as Rose said. And don't fret too much about other things .... just DO what you have TO DO.



I learned that from you, regarding "other things".

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