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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:07 pm

I have been doing great, the pain in my left side is pretty much gone, I have not urinated blood in quite some time. I have been able to work out doors on the lawn and in the garden though I have been taking it slow. My tooth is doing great and Pretty is a eating machine now that her gall stones have been removed. Maybe there is something to the empathy thing because my improvement coincided precisely w/ Tabitha being put to sleep and Pretty having her stones removed. Perhaps we were in resonance with the cats being born on the farm that I lived on for so long? Not sure I will ever know the answer to this but it really does not matter.

I miss Tabitha. She would be so excited with my having decided to grow again. I have ordered lights, a tent, organic nutes, harvested some top soil from the woods near my house and found some high cbd/thc strains that I am interested in. I have not purchased my seeds yet, as always I am already way over budget. A couple of the 18-21% cbd strains w/ <1%thc are currently out of my price range so I am looking at 1.3:1 cbd/thc and .8:1 cbd/thc strains that are around 10% avg for each.

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My intent is to take the RSO to the next level, make a cannabis spagyric prior to the final evaporation of the alcohol. Astrology plays a part in this and I am wondering Rose if you might check with the astrologer for a good reference as to how and when I should be making the cannabis spagyric. Cursory research into this I have found that cannabis sativa is a plant of saturn. Looking for more info, as well as a good and affordable alchemy set to incorporate into my endeavor.

Wish me stealth from those crazy bastards in power, I am not interested in sitting in jail again however I do very much want to help sick people.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:53 am

I think I can incorporate a little science into my grow by making two batches of rso. The first batch would be typical rso and the second I will call rsoplus, which will be the oil derived from the elixir with the recombined "salt" from both batches. This way I can give both medicines to someone who is ailing and ask for them to report back any differences they may find using rsoplus vs rso.

Essentially rso is a very simplified form of alchemy however I think where he may have seen so much success is because as alchemy states and much like we have talked about w/ JH`s work, the intent of the alchemist will affect the final outcome. My intent is to do this right, I still have much to learn but I will stumble forward with the most positive intent I can muster. Hopefully some of you find this interesting and can lend some insight or what have you.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:07 pm

Stay safe, Soloman.

This ridicule US prohibition of any given citizen to grow Hemp, while the EU (not to mention Canada !) approves - and subsidies - around 21 varieties of that plant .... is criminal from a Human Decency point of view !

Big Money talking .... and The Hill listening, that's all there is.


Do not be a Crusader, Soloman.
You'll end miserable.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:02 am

Except it is not about me, it is about helping others. It seems I am the only one on the web based on cursory searches that is talking about making rso from a spagyric and not a tincture. A spagyric is considered a stronger herbal remedy than a tincture, it stands to reason then that rsoplus > rso. With how big rso has become and how many people it has helped, I think it would be important enough to follow this through.

I am discussing this idea on a marijuana forum and it seems some cant grasp the concept even after having made rso. I have my work cut out for me sharing this idea...

How are your parents doing?

Oh and...

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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:22 pm

Parents are doing great, thanks for asking Soloman ! Following the CBD discipline, and I the Hemp Seed oil one.

If you ever manage to making that "rsoplus" without getting your ass in jail, maybe you'll want the share the cooking process here so that guys like me can try it in the household kitchen.

I may be an European jerk, but I'm a free european jerk regarding Hemp.

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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:42 pm

Glad to hear a positive report on your parents. Looking forward to the day when the report is that they are cancer free. Which is really what all of this is about, helping others because we can and it is the right thing to do.

I think I would like to take the time with you now to share my intention and method for coming up with rsoplus. Of course rso is Rick Simpson oil which is merely a method to produce very concentrated cannabis oil. The hemp oil we have been taking is a cannabis oil, however it is not rso.

To make rso you combine about a pound (sorry for the western measurement system, I am an ignorant american asshole) of cannabis, all flowers would be optimal imo however any way you can make up that pound number with cannabis plant should be considered. This plant material is then combined with a solvent, preferably everclear or grappa. Once this mixture has been worked and seen some time, it would be considered the tincture with the plant material removed.

It is this cannabis tincture that you evaporate the alcohol from to create rso. This is an alchemical process. Looking into alchemy, one finds that this process is not the be all end all of medicine making. Indeed it appears to be no more than 2/3 of the potential with the possibility that the sum will be greater than its parts.

Much like has been said of the work of JH, the person performing the work and their intention will affect the quality of the work.

So lets go back to the cannabis tincture prior to it becoming rso. You separated out the plant material and would then compost or dispose of it. However alchemy texts suggest making a spagyric which uses this plant material. What happens is you burn it to a grey white ash and then combine it with spring water from the source (imo optimal in current conditions) and process it via leeching. You distill this "salt" in the same spring water seven times fortifying it with the remaining non alcohol soluble medicinal properties. This is reported to become caustic.

You separate out the non soluble ash, this is called the caput mortem, deaths head. The cannabis has given up its body, soul and spirit or salt, sulphur and mercury. The spring water infused with the body of the plant, the salt, earth aspect or potassium carbonate is left to evaporate. Once you have the "salt" this will again be worked in the mortar and pestle to become very fine. It is this refined "salt" of any herbal plant that can be reunited with its own tincture (spirit and soul) to form the spagyric, a more complete medicine than the tincture.

It is this spagyric that you evaporate the alcohol from to have rsoplus.

The next level seems to be an "ens" which I guess would be for especially hard cases. Someone might want to make many rso`s because it does the job, quite well actually. Each time they make a rso, they would save their "salt" until it came time when they had a super stubborn case. This additional salt, from my understanding would be combined into the spagyric to make it fortified. Now I may be totally wrong here as it has been awhile since I have read up on this and am relying on an online paper I recently read. I may have misunderstood it, alchemy texts, even current ones do not give you a free pass.

The pound of cannabis is going to produce about four syringes worth of cannabis oil or rso. With spagyrics, you will produce the same amount however I intend to split the batch. Alchemy texts do suggest adding extra "salt" to produce the spagyric so I figure split the tincture in half. Use one half to make two syringes of rso, the other half you add in the salt to create the spagyric.

Two syringes of each, have whoever is taking the oil alternate syringes finishing each one and report their findings. Mark one syringe a, the other b and randomize the test. Perhaps we could determine (obviously I could not do a trial on my own) if the ends justify the means.
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:51 pm

Alchemy is really cool, body (our human vehicles or avatars), soul (You and Me) and spirit (Hobbit`s matrix). Cannabis is an alchemical plant which affects body, soul and mind with indica, sativa and hybrid strains. Add on top a method that relies on combining these very three key components to create the most potent possible elixir is sort of numbing to realize there is a 3,6,9 pattern here.

So, what is not possible with cannabis and alchemy?
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby Soloma » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:14 pm

Soloma wrote:Alchemy is really cool, body (our human vehicles or avatars), soul (You and Me) and spirit (Hobbit`s matrix). Cannabis is an alchemical plant which affects body, soul and mind with indica, sativa and hybrid strains. Add on top a method that relies on combining these very three key components to create the most potent possible elixir is sort of numbing to realize there is a 3,6,9 pattern here.

So, what is not possible with cannabis and alchemy?


Lol, wish I could edit this post. Sometimes cannabis is not your friend...
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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby re-rose » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:39 pm

Soloma, I think you are going to have to blaze the trail yourself. As I know you can. But you are putting yourself in serious jeopardy, I fear. Can't you move to a more lenient state before you begin?

But if you must, then these are a few basic resources for you, though you may have them already:

Practical Alchemy
http://pelicanist.blogspot.com/2014/11/ ... chemy.html

The Lunar Gardening Calendar shows that next weekend is good for seeding herbs..
http://www.rhythmofnature.net/gardener-calendar

A comprehensive source of 'correspondences' can be found in Magical Herbalism.
http://www.amazon.com/Magical-Herbalism ... 0875421202

The Astrologer's blog work is keeping him busy these days, but he sends his regards.

Happy to hear that you and Kitty are doing better!

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Re: Since cannabis was brought up

Postby LuisP » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:56 pm

Soloman
From one ignorant asshole to another, many thanks for all the hard work explaining this stuff.

It looks rather complicated to process and requiring “tools” (the person performing the work and their intention will affect the quality of the work) which I fear many will not possess – at least, I don’t – not to mention the fact that it involves, well, you know, not just Hemp. Which is still a no-no to the likes of me and my (ahem) prejudices, notwithstanding my smoking tobacco and drinking whisky – strictly old blended scotch or malt, mind you – vicious vices.

But it seems you have this thing figured out pretty well and are really intent on running it through, so my wish is for you to go definitely ahead, and to do so in a safe way ! And I’m not just talking about the Law.
And please share your results … am curious, towards if you ever manage to get the “spagyric” form as you describe.

I mean, what the hell …. !
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