Since cannabis was brought up

[Soloma]

Unfortunately Kevin I am not blessed as you are however I feel my field is strong. I have had multiple people who can see aura`s comment to me something along the lines that it is so. Charging a glass a water using your method (not exactly sure how you go about it) does not seem very practical to me as I would be interested in the charged water for my shower and my garden. Does your method remove the toxic chemicals such as flouride or the `cides I am cocnerned about?

Ideally I would like to find a method of charging water that I could share with friends and family. If the Hutchison unit is the easy solution for me, it would not be shareable with friends and family as they would not have a unit. I feel if they are not making the effort to acquire spring water from the source now, they will not in the future no matter what evidence I present them. However if the evidence concerning energized, spun water is coupled with a DIY or even commercial product, I feel I might get somewhere with them.

[kevin]

Nancy_Hutchison,

How are You and John???

It's a sort of lonely, but not so , world for those who are trying to push the tide back?
There is a cave I used to frequent as a child, a petrifying cave where the most fabulous water comes out of limestone and cascades down the front enterance, mother Shipton is said to have once lived in that cave , I sense Her still there.
You and John have that same mother Earth sense about You.
Kevin

[kevin]

Unfortunately Kevin I am not blessed as you are however I feel my field is strong. I have had multiple people who can see aura`s comment to me something along the lines that it is so. Charging a glass a water using your method (not exactly sure how you go about it) does not seem very practical to me as I would be interested in the charged water for my shower and my garden. Does your method remove the toxic chemicals such as flouride or the `cides I am cocnerned about?

Ideally I would like to find a method of charging water that I could share with friends and family. If the Hutchison unit is the easy solution for me, it would not be shareable with friends and family as they would not have a unit. I feel if they are not making the effort to acquire spring water from the source now, they will not in the future no matter what evidence I present them. However if the evidence concerning energized, spun water is coupled with a DIY or even commercial product, I feel I might get somewhere with them.

Yes most humans are conditioned into thinking a device is better than themselves.
Here's info about Joe cells.
Resonates with Me,
http://joecellwaterscience.com/
Kevin

[Soloma]

Nancy,

Thanks so much for responding, I know you have given me this information before. I have been taking Bob`s Red Mill baking soda, though not quite a tablespoon. I usually add it to my hot tea and am dismayed to see the same reaction with my water that I would when added to vinegar. Meaning my water must be very acidic.

I looked on the epsom salt box for a list of ingredients, the only thing listed on the fron is magnesium sulfate. Perhaps this is why it is giving me relief, being magnesium deficient. I am however concerned a bit about vitamins, I waffle back and forth on whether or not I feel they are beneficial or we are merely seeing the placebo effect.

I do not like using man made pharmaceuticals, it makes me question what is so different in a vitamin. I do have a magnesium and calcium vitamins that I bought when you suggested this to me before, however it is a combination of different forms of magnesium, none of which are malate.

Are vitamins synthetic like medicine and if so, how are they really helping or even good for us? Of course it is hard to question Pauling`s work w/ Vit C, but are all synthetic vitamins as viable?

I will look into malate and the potassium as well. Thanks you again Nancy.

[LuisP]

PLEASE accept and apply this information

Minerals...are metals (usually attached to a salt)
absolutely essential for proper functions in the body

without getting into the actual mechanisms
to keep this brief..

Magnesium, potassium and sodium are a "team"
Magnesium is a "regulator".
Most people are magnesium deficient.
When you are magnesium deficient calcium gets all goofed up.
Calcium becomes a "free radical".
Results of magnesium deficiency: bone lose, holes in teeth, kidney stones, heart attack, leg cramps
Magnesium is needed to make your nerves and electrical functions operate properly,

You need the sodium to control acid levels in your body.
high acid = cancer

Potassium is needed to balance the sodium.

I had severe kidney problems for many years. Tried all the "natural cures".
Also, I have the urine test strips that doctors use.

What worked (and I still do this daily):
Baking soda
--a TABLESPOON in a glass of water. I take a gulp from the glass throughout the day.

Magnesium
best magnesium for oral is magnesium malate -- one 1000 mg each day
magnesium oxide and citrate are not very good
also, transdermal magnesium daily (magnesium chloride--natural flakes--highly concentrated, dissolved in water)
transdermal means you rub it on your skin --do not ingest magnesium chloride

Potassium
Nature's Bounty--595mg --two per day

If I get a headache, sore throat, cough, any leg or finger cramps, any pain with urinating
I drink that full glass of water with the TBLS of baking soda and take one potassium 595mg
Within 20 minutes...those problems are gone

I also put a pinch of baking soda in the pot of coffee in the morning...reduces the acid.
After eating, especially eating something sweet (sweet=acid), I make certain I gulp from the baking soda water

The swelling in my feet and legs is gone. The cramps are gone.
It doesn't hurt when I pee, no more blood in the urine.
and the urine analysis strips show "no more problems"
(before doing this, the urine analysis strips indicated kidney stones and renal failure)

the METALS in your body, and the proper balance of the metals
the minerals
is paramount.

Nancy

Very interesting, Nancy.
Tx for the factual "hands-on" description.

Have looked up "magnesium malate " :
-"Magnesium malate is a combination of the mineral magnesium and malic acid. Malic acid is a naturally occurring substance that helps in the production of energy during both aerobic and anaerobic activities. Magnesium is one of the most abundant minerals found in the body, and is essential for the health of the heart, bones and kidneys. Together, magnesium and malic acid provide many health-related benefits …. Magnesium malate has the ability to chelate metals, and most importantly, toxic metals. … Magnesium malate can bind to these metals and render them ineffective" (http://www.livestrong.com/article/28080 ... um-malate/)

How long have you been following that "discipline" of a combination from "Baking soda--a TABLESPOON in a glass of water + magnesium malate -- one 1000 mg each day + Potassium Nature's Bounty--595mg --two per day " ?

And have you done recent blood tests, and if so, anything unsusual in them ?

[LuisP]

There is a difference in water that I have been trying to describe.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... maryland/1

This planet is alive, and water from a long time ago is where dowsers will pinpoint to.
It will be alive water, this is all about business creating a false illusion of water so called cleanliness, so they can make You pay for dead water.
Kevin

Hobbit
The concept of "alive water", or "element water" seem very familiar with something I read from Marcel Violet's "Vitaized Water" that I've mentioned here some time ago - viewtopic.php?f=51&t=1117&start=30#p33626.

The crux of the subject, as I see it mentioned over and over again even if in different ways, is that “properly treated" water can be [i]"capable of conferring new and unknown forces to living organisms"[/i]. Marcel did experiment with it and wrote that " “this” water increased crop yields and the growth of livestock, and that vitalized water can stimulate .... the spontaneous cure of serious illness "

This "Joe" seems to be following along these lines.


Why no one picks up and follows through with these guys work, is truly remarkable.

[LuisP]

Soloman

This Spring, I will be connecting the Hutchison's Unit to my parent's house main water pipe. I have not done it yet given the hard pushing I subjected them to on several issues, the instalation of said Unit being one of them (I explained about this on the "Hutchison Anti-Radiation Unit" thread - viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1158&start=60#p35330).

You do it too, Soloman.

More,
Why haven't you yet ?

I haven't - exclusively - because of what I explained at lenght on the above referenced link.

I have the instructions from Nancy on how to proceed. They're very simple, and I can email them to you.


Then again, maybe Nancy would like to explain it herself here for everyone's renewed update !

[Soloma]

Kevin, I have read the Joe Cell website front to back today but I find it hard to determine how I am supposed to make that information useful to my current situation. On one of the pages, they claim to be selling a Silver Joe Cell on ebay yet the listing for Joe Cell on ebay do not seem to be related. I am lost as to how to proceed with this information as I do not see myself spending money to get involved in helping to further their research. I am just not in that sort of position as much as I would like to, I do not chase money and therefore it does not find me either. Coupled with my response to Luis below, I do not see myself building and testing these claims either.

Luis, honestly I have been waiting to see how you do the installation so I might have a guide to follow. I figured since I am not mechanically inclined, I could use all the help I could get. My installation of the Hutchsion unit pales in comparison to yours as far as quality goes, I am just not much of a tinkerer.

I am still looking at the Natural Action Technologies unit of energizing water, they claim the unit rotates the water in a double vortex, removing the energy signatures of the pollutants but not necessarily the physical contaminants. They claim the unit erases the memory of the water, thereby making it pure.

I am curious Kevin what you think of this Clayton Nolte and his claims.
https://vimeo.com/91748614

One thing I have noticed and am concerned about, there is no supporting evidence of their claims, such as a peer reviewed study. However it seems they are still waiting for their patent, I have sent an email to a community farm that is claimed to be using this technology. I asked if they could endorse the tech, hopefully I will hear back from them.

[LuisP]

You’re cutting youself short and selling me high, Soloman. Installing the Unit was just plain hard work drilling plastic, bending a pipe around a tree and and taping some wires around other wires. To then connect the Unit to a water pipe is but a cakewalk, compared.

Again, maybe Nancy would like to step in and throw some ideas on doing it, even if I think what she advised me will not be any different.

Regarding your “water quest” and Clayton Nolte,
I’m sure you are aware of an immense number of “products” and “explanations” being advertised around the Net.

I always try to try understanding both sides of any issue that interests me.
That is why I would advise you taking some time to read this site from a retired Chemistry professor (http://www.chem1.com/CQ/wonkywater.html) and this site (http://www.cyber-nook.com/water/alteredwater.htm) from a guy who states “I have a BA degree in biology with a minor in chemistry from the University of Colorado in Boulder, CO. I completed a Masters of Science in molecular genetics from Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, AZ. I have taught biology and physical science at the high school and college levels. I am currently employed at the Denver VA Medical Center and provide data analysis, database management, programming, computer support, and quality management reporting for the National Surgical Quality Improvement Program.”

There’s “something” in water, that’s for sure, as Marcel Violet and his “entire hospital experiment” proved to the point of having merited a “positive opinion issued by the (French) National Academy of Medicine in 1958”.

But as with everything, a lot of “stuff” hits the fan, commercially speaking. That is why reading those two sites is important, from a simple approach point of view to the issue, before making judgments and decisions involving your hard earned cash. Just so you can weight things, I’d say.

That said,
This site (http://www.waterfyi.com/water-ionizers/gimmick-or-scam/) is from a guy who assumes having been on the “water ionizer business” and having sold its “machines” . Very interesting reading, for this guys writes with what comes across as honesty (to me, that is). And he not only (not surprisingly) seconds the “benefits” of drinking “ionized water” but he also says you don’t need to spend thousands of dollars. He recommends a simple unit called “Vitev Flo” which was selling for $399 when he wrote this article in 2010, and that now sells for $199. You can, FWIW, find it here- http://www.vitev.com/alkaline-water-ionizers-p/flo.htm

Also,
In this site (http://aetherforce.com/water-structuriz ... -verbelli/) you will find a very interesting place to read about several kinds of apparatus with alleged “water enhancing” properties of which the site’s owner even bought some, among which you will find several Youtubes about your Clayton Nolte and his proposals.

Hope it helps.
Best to you, as always.

[kevin]

If I could remain on SPIN.
Soloma,
Your Clayton Nolte is interesting, especially His "structured water" term.
I go back to geometry, the geometry that water exists in.
The geometry that supports creation in all dimensions.
Then if You can visualise water spinning within this geometry, and the symbiotic interaction with the flows of conciousness , that will produce a high charge field, and that field will remain in place for quite a while.

You then will have the water itself uprated, but also the local area field will remain spinning , and thus benifiting all 3D creations within that zone.

Kevin