Steve Clarke has JUDGED you all!

[Mikado14]

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Re: "The Lying Actions of Linda Brown"
Postby fruitbat » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:30 pm

It's a little known fact that fruitbats carry, but are not affected by ebola virus...
We are not good to eat.
In reality my past is littered with the corpses (literally!) of those who have taken a "bite" out of me.
There are consequences.
Which is why I nowadays try to avoid conflict. I really don't like what happens to my enemies..
(Of course it may just be that the "type" into which my enemies fall is more prone to self destruction and misfortune)

Fruitbat.

Well wags, thought you might be interested in this post from fruitbat. Kim was over there and read it to me this morning and my reaction, well, was one of, it almost literally caused my jaw to drop.

I thought it was quite serendipitous that you made the post above and then fruitbat made a post above elsewhere. Am I the only what that sees a form of deviant behaviour? To make a claim that one has left corpses, literally I might add and I am assuming that he understands the use of the word literal, displays psycho/sociopathic tendencies as much as Linda has done. He has physically left bodies of dead people. And I am accused of murder by the other forum?.....and he has left bodies?

It could easily be construed, from your post above, wags, that fruitbat is labouring under some form of delusion. I can't say that I have ever used the term "enemy" in regard to anyone, perhaps when I was younger but I did grow up. They would have been individuals that I didn't see eye to eye with and/or had a difference of opinion with but enemy? Strong use of a word in my opinion.

Further, as said, the use of the word "literal" in connection with the corpses (bodies) of those he has not agreed with is a bit on the megalomaniacal side. The touting of his superior attitude in a good deal of his past posts which often times displayed a trait of delusional grandeur but never substantiated at any time and now this recent addition to the list displays his self defined superiority and greatness. All of this matches the definition of megalomaniacal behaviour.

There was a time on the old forum (ttbrown) where Linda made some form of similar claim that she was being watched after and that those that would bring her harm would be dealt with. That was made by twigsnapper and I believe James Barrett. Since all of us are still here even though she claims we are causing harm then two conclusions can be had.....twigsnapper and James Barrett are fictitious or no one has caused harm to Linda.

Now when I pity Linda, I have one more to pity and they both need help with posts such as above.

Mikado

ps: Take note that "cosmic token" appears in the link and does not say "Nickel"

[wags]

I think FB may be referring to someone in a sense of him 'out living' him. Literally he is dead, but nothing more sinister, though it does remind me of something else. that may turn out to be more significant than I originally considered... That one is a perfect reconstruction of the 'Kant v Utilitarian Paradox that Luis and I muse over, those conversations and ones with Soloma were particularly useful. Learning from people who may violently disagree can be very productive. Understanding how someone has arrived at something always helps.

[kevin]

The fruitcake ( a high content of fruitcakes is nuts)
Has questioned what I as the hobbit ever achieved relative to Dr Browns life and works.
I learn't a great deal.
I encountered some fabulous humans, some now on the other side, some still on this very forum.
NEVER was I asked by any to join any fictious side, never was there any such hints.
Linda was fabulous, as EHD in particuler, and if as seems certain She was multiple other posters, all the more fabulous for carrying out such a long standing series of multiple personalities.
I always assumed such would be required to try and winkle out information.

I fully understand why Fred and Mikado would want to know why the IP addresses all had the same address as Lindas, some people want things to run along straight lines, with not too many curves and inclines, Linda should now be honest, and stop all of this crazy divisions, imho.

I did no other thing in all the years involved other than trying to learn and reveal as much as possible about Dr Brown.
What the fuck business is it of that fruitcakes to question Me????

That attitude displays EXACTLY the reason I wanted out of the forums where He was entrenched.
When the blind dog Myles began accusing Me ( backed up by that fruitcake) of trying to disrupt investigations into Dr Browns works on the cosmic forum , and whilst on the livingmoon forum ,I knew it was time to exit stage left.
Kevin

[kevin]

Linda,
You are inventing senarios, I have not called You a liar, as You have just stated.
I am under no entities control.
I do not consider the fruitcake as a foe, as You have just stated.

You made Your bed to include that fruitcake, He sure viewed Myself as some sort of foe, and I do not want to be involved in any manner with him.
I have never had a problem with You, but it was obvious that fruitcake would continue as he had for quite some time relative to myself.

My interest and passion is that which My dowsing reveals, and something has always told Me that Your father was in touch with the self same, hence I keep watching The cosmic forum to glean whatever, but am constantly dismayed at this seemingly never ending crackpot carryon of division.
I have never sensed any danger from Mikado or Fred or Andrew.......NONE.

They may have their own personal plans and agendas, but why shouldn't they?????
And with TIME involved who is to say who constructs or develops what is required ?????

You constantly are presenting a senario where Mikado and Andrew and paul are some sort of long term implanted personel to steal Your fathers knowledge etc, but this is just paranoia, imho.
Your father could have come forward in time to utilise exactly what is even yet not made, the possibilities are mind blowing.
If it wasn't that something (imho it is Myself in another dimension) having such a hold on Myself seemingly keeping Me involved here I would gladly cut free and not look back
Kevin

[StarCat]

I thought Linda referred to Fruitbat as a "plump little mouse with wings." Along with telling him not to trust me. Alrighty then! The idea of reinstating my membership was being floated, contingent on my behavior. It was suspiciously close to April Fool's Day, so I regarded it as a trap. I have intelligent conversations here, I have some really intelligent and interesting conversations at PRC, and I have my surrogate family at EUTM. I see no compelling reason to wish for reinstatement at the C.T.

Cat

[Mikado14]

Well, trust in the Lord...at least it says that on my money.

A good deal being said about intelligent conversation. If both parties are content with the content (I know it looks strange but they are homophones...hey...that was intelligent) then I would say it was a meaningful conversation. An Intelligent conversation essentially is based upon a judgmental perception as to what intelligent is. Seems it could be ego driven. Wow....wonder what that says about the original individual who started all this.

I would rather say that I appreciate meaningful conversations and let the ego at the door.

Well Cat, remember what happened when I was given consideration to join the Token. Linda has claimed it was a plan to humiliate me with Dave...yeah right. He can't even face me and we don't live that far apart. Your a big girl, you'll hold your own no matter what you do. I have confidence.

Mikado

[StarCat]

I rest my case.

Cat

[wags]

I had noticed a 'recruitment' drive, cannot think why that is necessary. I am on a couple of forums in completely different sub-cultures.

[wags]

FB is in Black ; * Wags in Blue
FB has highlighted this section as the most important aspect here:-

"...Think about it. ALL THIS IS ABOUT 1 MAN.

I see it as the It is all about the science, the man is irrelevant. That is an academic philosophical argument.

Tho mas Townsend Brown. He de MAN. He obtained the patents, did the work, made the speakers, lifters, discs etc. etc. HIM.

What matters is the quality of his work and is it correct. Patents are of no interest unless one is planning a business. A patent is not a science paper but if made a product / invention.

The nearest thing we have to him is his daughter, Linda. She guards protects and promotes his legacy to the best of her ability. Out of love, cos it sure doesn't make her life easier or richer..

The only thing that matters is the legacy of his science the man is only a man. His offspring are of no relevance except if you require permission to use one of his patents or publish any items in his estate which is a properly constituted trust and all the legal documents pertaining to that. (US Law)

But that is a distraction. Assuming Linda is the executor is not unreasonable, but worth noting it is an estate of TTB not Linda Brown. They are two distinct entities.

And his further writings and essays now are likely to reside there.
She either publishes them or not, I have no interest either way. However maintaining the pressure on Paul is futile and damaging to her amongst other things. He had and has the right to walk away from a project if he felt that it conflicted with his integrity as a writer. He simply lost all faith in that project and it is no longer an avenue for Linda to promote her father. She is quite capable of writing her own book, and she would find it far more profitable and feel happier in general if she embraced that challenge than writing endless posts from more than one year ago, that you have been quite rightly indignant about. Think how it might feel reading posts from another site that are over five years old. How does your indignation match up with that. I speculate that you are indignant but it is how I see it.

If it wasn't for her there woudln't BE any of this.

On that I think you may find surprising consensus, though I am not sure all the individual why's that statement can possibly spawn will find agreement will yourself.

His legacy would have got swept under the carpet properly like Tesla's did. She opposes the forces that would keep us ignorant.

The best thing she can do to promote her father is the following:-

1.0 Simply publish all his papers properly, if any that have not been released.

2.0 Write a straightforward biography of her family life with TTB if she must.

3.0 Write sparingly and if she does write responsibly. Those who have followed up on his work such as the Russian whose name I cannot spell and it is not important enough to look up, are the people to follow if you want to understand this subject.

or...

Get you to become executor and let you take the reins whilst she writes her book. You have worked hard for her and your loyality is commendable though dangerously misguided in my opinion,


Which side did you pick? How can that be a great choice?
..."

I am an individual and side suggests that TTB / LB is vital to my world. It is not, but obviously we have appraised this and arrived at different conclusions. Why it is so is I do not respect a 'name' for the sake of a name but there integrity and body of work in qualitative terms. If the integrity is not there you have sandcastles. Have you got closer to lifting that container 1mm off the ground? Follow the data not the people.

I was not impressed with the 'Brown' surname, her rights do not exceed yours do they? Why should she have an exemption from complying if not in spirit but by the letter of good neighbourliness. She and regret to report yourself treat others as 'resources' to be 'exploited' to use, abuse to your own self interests. I cite your recent excerpt saying that The HUT were missing a trick and not using me..." (I paraphrase) as part of that mentality.

I came on these forums largely to help you further your scientific interests, I am somewhat surprised to find that my conclusions based on reason, experience and knowledge was useless in the face of someone who is has abandoned reason for....????

[wags]

Fruitbat wrote:

You see, here's the thing.

When we choose to fight (whether it be fisticuffs or the more sophisticated methods that some pick), the result is always the same.

Someone gets hurt.

I agree but would go further, everyone gets hurt including passing strangers.

Some of us are strong and have great tolerance for injury, and consequently it takes a great deal of effort to hurt such people, on the other hand some of us are sensitive souls and will take damage from a ridiculously small injury.

I am almost in agreement with this, however I careful with judging and defining "Ridiculous small injury" ; What might be perceived as such should not invalidate it being a ridiculously big problem when viewed from their perspective. Appreciating, understanding and making reasonable changes. The hardest thing to do is to viewing through another's eyes.

Due to the way human psychology works, the water is further muddied by people not properly knowing themselves, and/or trying to project a false image of themselves by way of psychological "protective colouring".

In my experience most folk have not spent that much time contemplating the source of there behaviour. It is always work in progress. A so called 'ridiculously small thing; will normally have it's roots in the dim and distant past and totally unrelated to the present.

In the matter of the conflict we have with the members of the hut, I am convinced that both sides for a long time have felt alternately, on the defensive, on the ascendant and/or simply tired of the conflict. Both sides claim the moral highground, and whilst I side more with one than the other, I recognise that boths sides, however they may appear to actually conduct themselves, think they are ultimately the "good guys".

Yes but I think you are assuming 'no benign intent' or are you offering it as a basis of reconciliation? The first issue is trust (Malign intent, has been claimed by both) and that is therefore shot to pieces. Linda would have to travel a very long way to regain that and from what I have seen it is irreconcilable.

Out in the real world Mr Putin and Mr Obama are having similar discussions there's a lot of accusations and false accusations flying around whilst each side positions and tests their nuclear armed forces, and as it happens each side in the global argument believes that they are wearing the super reflective white hats...

As it happens in my little world I have recently been identified as a "security risk" (and removed from my position as a result of that insight too!) yet at the same time I am being shown that some people do take note of what I have to say! Life is indeed full of paradoxes, and I feel you are right indeed, to eschew "either/or" thinking.

Either / or thinking is adversarial and digital in nature and life is not that straightforward. I have demonstrated that on another post where I have applied a 'Or' response, in reality there are an infinite combination of possibilities, which neatly takes us back to that opening unease over my reservations using the phrase "Ridiculous small injury", setting aside the bad precedent of giving a perceived aggressor telling a victim that the injury sustained is just a graze.

I know enough about Wags to flesh out his description of being "passport challenged" based on what he has told me in the past, but I choose not to comment, as, well, it's HIS business.

Good.