Steve Clarke has JUDGED you all!

[kevin]

Kevin,

advice was switch the foe mode on to avoid getting frustrated. Myles is a Linda subterfuge to create mutual hostility between you both feeding on the frustration of people searching for answers such as you and FB. The causation is again the same.

Am I reading this correctly???
"Switch the foe mode on"
Which is what occured.
Kevin

[wags]

Kevin,

advice was switch the foe mode on to avoid getting frustrated. Myles is a Linda subterfuge to create mutual hostility between you both feeding on the frustration of people searching for answers such as you and FB. The causation is again the same.

Am I reading this correctly???
"Switch the foe mode on"
Which is what occured.
Kevin

I mean the forum function mode so that one can avoid being distracted

[Mikado14]

....I thought I would put it here.

Re: Fruitbat Droppings.
Postby Linda Brown » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:38 pm

Points well taken Fruitbat.

But this is a really desperate search for people who CAN be trusted as " friends" willing and able to go forward TOGETHER..

And obviously. Its a difficult chore. Especially when the topic of Electrogravitics comes up.

Linda
From the S

Yes, the search can be desperate and exhausting to find individuals who CAN be trusted to believe blindly, even when faced with the truth, and accept whatever said as concrete fact. To have a mind as porous as cheesecloth so the truth will not be retained and will willingly accept each day, the sermon spoken as gospel.

And reply in unison, "May the Leach be with you."

Mikado

PS: Electrogravitics is not a poison subject. It only becomes that when individuals tout certain devices as displaying such when they are displaying a different accepted principle. A good simile would be one claiming that a wire carrying current is an electromagnet. Not really accurate but would be at the one foot mark in a 100 yard dash.

May the Leach be with you.

[Mikado14]

Kevin,

advice was switch the foe mode on to avoid getting frustrated. Myles is a Linda subterfuge to create mutual hostility between you both feeding on the frustration of people searching for answers such as you and FB. The causation is again the same.

Am I reading this correctly???
"Switch the foe mode on"
Which is what occured.
Kevin

kevin,

If you go to your control panel, located at the top of each page directly under "Board Index", you will see when you get there, tabs across the top. The very last one says, "Friends and Foes". If you were to put fruitbat's name in the foe list, you would not see his posts unless someone were to quote him.

Mikado

[kevin]

Kevin,

advice was switch the foe mode on to avoid getting frustrated. Myles is a Linda subterfuge to create mutual hostility between you both feeding on the frustration of people searching for answers such as you and FB. The causation is again the same.

Am I reading this correctly???
"Switch the foe mode on"
Which is what occured.
Kevin

kevin,

If you go to your control panel, located at the top of each page directly under "Board Index", you will see when you get there, tabs across the top. The very last one says, "Friends and Foes". If you were to put fruitbat's name in the foe list, you would not see his posts unless someone were to quote him.

Mikado

Yep,
Know exactly what is it is.
I would never stoop so low as to use such.
I am offended that Wags suggested the fruitcake was to do such.

I am not, and was not surprised when fruitcake did such, I am surprised wags suggested such.
It would have been better to tell fruitcake to jump in the nile, He lives in permanent denial.
He has a problem with Me, many do, it is their ego fighting to defend what they assume as factual, it is denial of something far more complex than 3D reality.
I face this daily when challenging mosts ego's, it's water off a ducks back ( thick skinned back)

Kevin

[wags]

Kevin,

advice was switch the foe mode on to avoid getting frustrated. Myles is a Linda subterfuge to create mutual hostility between you both feeding on the frustration of people searching for answers such as you and FB. The causation is again the same.

Am I reading this correctly???
"Switch the foe mode on"
Which is what occured.
Kevin

kevin,

If you go to your control panel, located at the top of each page directly under "Board Index", you will see when you get there, tabs across the top. The very last one says, "Friends and Foes". If you were to put fruitbat's name in the foe list, you would not see his posts unless someone were to quote him.

Mikado

Yep,
Know exactly what is it is.
I would never stoop so low as to use such.
I am offended that Wags suggested the fruitcake was to do such.

I am not, and was not surprised when fruitcake did such, I am surprised wags suggested such.
It would have been better to tell fruitcake to jump in the nile, He lives in permanent denial.
He has a problem with Me, many do, it is their ego fighting to defend what they assume as factual, it is denial of something far more complex than 3D reality.
I face this daily when challenging mosts ego's, it's water off a ducks back ( thick skinned back)

Kevin

I am sorry Kevin that you feel offended, but it seemed at the time that both yourself and FB were getting frustrated and not having a good time miscommunicating. It was hoped that it would in time be temporary, however the Posts made under Linda Brown's username claimed as a different persona "Myles" created conditions that were unacceptable to both of you, for slightly different reasons, (Both Kevin and FB were talking at each other, rather than with each other). The central cause is the same, Linda.

[wags]

FB on Cosmic:-

I'll confess I have been wrestling with how to determine how much is too much to say.

Although I believe I have a handle on how the the basic principle works and can be developed into a viable space going vehicle, that isn't the same as having a complete understanding of the subject and it's ramifications. Which has stayed my hand somewhat so far in how far I go to obtain some illumination of the mystery. The "revelation" was figuring out a way to determine what was permissible to talk about.

It's my understanding that wags seems to see events from quite a different perspective to myself. His account of his entry to this forum neglects to mention that I asked him here primarily to assist me with deciding whether the hutchisons had any possibilty of being on the level.

Thank you for saying you asked me to assist you, rather than the previous reason in that you were doing me a favour. The way you were treated for example Nancy trying to get you banned, ironic FB has advocated the same in relation to Kevin and after I had walked myself. I do concur our understanding differ, but that is natural.

That was the full extent of his commission from myself, anything else he has undertaken of his own adult volition. I had found a natural adversary in Nancy it seemed, and although her message and activities appeared fraudulent to me, because of the importance and massive selfless benevolence she claimed her activities to represent, I wanted a second opinion before engaging with her and her cohorts. In the event he was massively helpful in that endeavour before following her over to the hut...

Unpaid commission, It was favour as a friend in need, I followed the facts not your belief system. I did not follow Nancy, I was marooned there.


Of course you have easy access to Jess who has been pictured next to a lifter, so it's unlikely that you will actually need much support from myself but if you do, you only need to ask. I think Jess buys in his PSU's rather than self builds, so when the time comes please get in touch. I've seen the price of that Ideas unlimited stuff, and last time I looked they were charging more than I'd need to build and deliver a one off! I am in the process of designing a low cost, reliable, safe (as far as high voltage can ever be labelled "safe"), stackable 25Kv "battery". You never know, I might have it in production by then..

Back to wags's output, I can actually see and partially comprehend why he has drawn the conclusions and taken the actions with respect to people and events that he has. Unhappily he chooses to align himself with those who would describe me as a "fucking liar", and has in the past shown a tendancy to align himself with people who have expressed unnecessary hatred towards me which makes it difficult to have honest and sensible discourse.

I am not motivated to align myself on the basis of who hates FB. I have defended you in relation to that comment but it did occur after you called Mikado a liar. Be careful FB one does not know how much I may have defended you whilst appreciating that Mikado's concern at proxy IP's. If you are not doing this then what conclusion does FB arrive at. Why for example did Linda repost my message except to stir up problems. I have defended you many times. FB you did very well out of my friendship ranging from Finacial subsidies (The skim as FB puts it), free Cat / flat` sitting over holiday periods to name a couple. Injustice is not something FB can claim.

I'm not yet fully convinced that I have achieved better comprehension of lifes issues or sufficient judgment than I had when I first met wags, but I am now fairly sure that at least one of us is suffering through a process that is well described in the book "people of the lie" by Dr M.Scott Peck.

That book again. It is only one source. I agree though only one of us can be correct over Linda / Mikado. I am stunned that I am where I am, but that is were the evidence lead.

This business of "perspective" is very important, and not very well understood. There are many ways to examine creation and many conclusions one can come to based on incomplete facts, and since none of us ever has all the facts then perspective can end up playing a disproportionate part in people's conclusions and understandings. Your Mr Reagan nailed it when he observed how quickly our perceived differences would fall away if we were facing (for example) an alien invasion.

I hope gentle reader that as you read this you can realise that more than those pesky and shadowy illuminati, more even than the TSA we are opposed in our daily lives by the same implacable enemy that created "Dead Hand" and "the mikado brown cilvil war" (Just two of literally countless examples):

Wrong thinking.

I do not accept there is any global conspiracy as outlined, there are far to much incompetence in public service. In the end they are people that are motivated by exactly the same things everyone else is. My assumption was that FB understood this conspiracy but did not believe it, hook line and sinker. It is not a civil war but cyber bullying.

Fruitbat.

P.S. For the purpose of orientation, I submit that Jess's Dalai Lama posts show "Right thinking" in action.

[color=#0000BF] Right Thinking... lol
Well I do not think it was Right Thinking creating a thread titled "Steve Clarke has judged you all." I simply do not think FB is thinking right as a direct consequence of interacting with Linda over years. But it is a personal view it could well be worse and part of your intrinsic character that I overlooked as one of FB's traits that were worked around rather than judged. But it is bloody inconvenient when FB failed to do something on time. Why do people not like trading is at the heart of FB's misconception. It is unpleasant purchasing something from someone who sees only a mark even with his friends. The expectation that a visitor should provide coffee AFTER he has left was disgraceful. Irksome and shows lack of dignity and deserving of rebuke. Wrong thing or what! [color=#0000BF]

[Mikado14]

I appreciate your candor in the above post, wags.

I have made judgement upon fruitbat of the IP's. I make those judgments predicated upon the preponderance of the evidence. Until such time as further evidence is put forth, I will continue to hold that evidence as my basis.

Yes, you are correct. Fruitbat did call me a liar first and if I recall, I then started to put forth citations and then called him out. If he wishes to call the phenomenon that he witnessed as "transductance" and then characterized it as a "transducer" of sorts, that is his prerogative, that does not make it correct. A good simile would be to call an electric motor a transducer since it converts electrical energy into mechanical, in a way it is correct in a manner of speaking just as an antenna is identified as a transducer in some applications but in the case of fruitbat, it appears to those with an education that it is an attempt to appear knowledgeable or simply grasping for a technological straw and renames a principle that is already identified. Is the lifter a transducer? Yes, it converts electrical energy into mechanical energy but to coin a new phrase for a device that is described by other terms displays a quest for notoriety or in other words...ego building.

It is a shame that a friendship has seen a wedge driven so artfully and forcefully done by an individual with such self-absorbed esteem and moral shortcomings in a pejorative manner.

Mikado

[wags]

Thanks for the post, I feel that the IP issue is a good example of how these things are not cut and dried and totally dependant upon the relative situation and available reliable data.

I can appreciate and respect that my input is insufficient on the basis it must from your perspective be 'unreliable'. The invective 'liar' was immoderate but understood as frustration given the frustration.

[kevin]

Wags,
You may have meant well, but caused a bigger problem.
It is highly offensive to ignore ( which is the consequence of that foe button)

It is the action of a coward, and is child like.

You never considered Myself??????

Kevin