Steve Clarke has JUDGED you all!

[wags]

Wags,
You may have meant well, but caused a bigger problem.
It is highly offensive to ignore ( which is the consequence of that foe button)

It is the action of a coward, and is child like.

You never considered Myself??????

Kevin

I was, the term 'foe' is a misnomer as I see it as a function that can be used in that given circumstance. Your right to post was not affected, indeed I would contend it helped but I stand corrected. It was actually an attempt at showing respect for both of you, to express yourselves without hassle. It did not work so I guess you are right, but the intention was in good faith.

[Mikado14]

wags, speaking of the IP issue.

One of the methods used to spam this site is referred to as an open relay check which uses a program referred to as "SMTPRC". This program searches for an IP source looking for open relays that can be used to proxy for the purpose of spam or to hide.

This is just one example of how the posts are being lifted. Perhaps you are correct wags, I am giving too much credit to the person who claimed to have worked for a computer company and he was their "go to guy". But then again, perhaps not.

Fail2ban is one program I have been utilizing but does not always work. If an IP comes in with no identity other than the IP itself, it will get filed as a spam IP for later banning. It lists the hosting source and on some rare occasions, it will give a path back depending on the host that is being used. That is how I noticed that on some of them they were coming from the UK. The only two individuals that are under Linda's skirt is fruitbat and Gman. When I mentioned the Isle of Mann, that was a relay that was used and was the source IP being spoofed.

To give you an idea on this, there is never a referring url, that usually triggers the software to identify a spam attempt. Further, there is never a reported Operating System or Browser that is reading the forum. Resolutions are always at the max level that normally, no one ever uses but if they were to, their OS and Browser would be recorded.

So, is fruitbat that smart or are their more easily sophisticated programs out there to search for open ports to spam through?

Apparently, he would have us believe he is not that smart but his statements elsewhere belie those statements. Frankly, I don't care but it is a pain in the ass to safeguard this site from being used as a spam source/bouncing.

A while back, Linda asked a question of me as to if I was "overwhelmed". The site was being heavily bombarded by spam attempts around the same time, coincidence? More than likely, they are using a Tor Browser which, from what I have been able to determine, utilizes the SMTPRC looking for open relays to hide yourself from. In other words, the Token is a group of individuals who hide and are afraid to take possession of their acts.

Is Linda using the Tor on a USB flashdrive? I doubt it, afterall, why would she drive to a public WiFi to read here instead of using it on her computer? Ergo, it is one of her sycophants. Remember, Cat had mentioned that she was asked to spy on the Hut, or something like that, why not one of her current faithful?

I believe that using a Tor has uses but on a forum? The question is....what are they afraid of? Perhaps being caught in their lies.....but I suppose it is fun for them to pretend to be spies....just like Morgan!

May the Leach be with you.

Mikado

[wags]

It was not so much a matter of fb being smart enough more not likely to sustain such a policy of copying over the length of time,

It was myself that FB removed after the fact earlier this year, not Kevin that I was referring to. Defaming is not what is happening here, just a different set of priorities and concerns. FB you outlined and pronounced judgement in your opinions in a email. I was offended at the audacity and lack of appreciation of his own failings. Spend time improving yourself rather than destroying others out of some kind of entitlement to claim rights you barely understand let alone point out as my failures, especially when that individual has overlooked or worked round your own irritating traits. Being reliable is one such failings and that is why Mikado is wrong to suspect you of copying and pasting. But of course I may be in error and the true failing is being foolish enough to go along with such a plan. or worse. I tend to err on the side of innocent but some take advantage of that.

The children of the lie is a book that resonated with you but not myself. I have hundreds of books et al. met numerous people in the field and it is just not that straightforward. Just as Games people Play is only the start, Children of the lie is just an introduction to the whole subject.

Judge yourself and what do you see? (Rhetorical)

[kevin]

Wags,
You may have meant well, but caused a bigger problem.
It is highly offensive to ignore ( which is the consequence of that foe button)

It is the action of a coward, and is child like.

You never considered Myself??????

Kevin

I was, the term 'foe' is a misnomer as I see it as a function that can be used in that given circumstance. Your right to post was not affected, indeed I would contend it helped but I stand corrected. It was actually an attempt at showing respect for both of you, to express yourselves without hassle. It did not work so I guess you are right, but the intention was in good faith.

I fully accept that You acted in good faith, but there is only a small number of individuals involved between both forums.
If there were hundreds I could see the sense in utilising this foe thing, but not when so few are involved.
Kevin

[kevin]

What a total dickhead this fruitcake is.
http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewt ... &start=650
He posts assumptions as fact.
He is a liar, a demented dickhead of a liar.
The only reason I decided to leave that site was to rid Myself of having to read His F###### lies any longer.

I am sure He can or will read this.
F''''''''' Yourself dickhead.
Kevin

[kevin]

A few points
FB wrote....."Wishing Him dead"
That demonstrates the depth of this lunatics hatred towards Me.

"After He fled this site( presumably in shame, certainly in disgrace)"
I didn't flee that site , I desired to rid Myself of what to Me was obvious, a f@@@@@ lunatic called steve clark ( who I now intend to delve into His past most thorougly)

There was no shame felt By Me or disgrace, I was extremely sad and disgusted at Linda in particuler

"When His internal version of the truth ran into the inconvienence of been exposed to some reality based question( which I had a hand in)"

I know well You had a hand in what occured, your wanking hand .
I was been exposed to Your wanking lies, You perverted fruitcake.

"Stand up to Your opponent"
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee do so ...anytime , anywhere.

" watch them crumble when their bluff is called"

I have never crumbled dickhead, and I aam and never have bluffed or lied, unlike You , You piece of fruitcake crap droppings.

Kevin

[kevin]

FB wrote

"Electing to scamper off to the other site"

You demented fruitcake, I did not scamper off anywhere, I was intent in not having anything further to do with You that had been made CAPTAIN, it was plain to Myself when that occured that My days were numbered indeed, especially with Your lies fuelling and perverting others trusts.
The one and only reason I came to this site was to say goodbye to everyone, which a blind dog named Myles haste at locking Me out of the cosmic site had prevented.
A word.
Disabled .

That word has many truths to it, the disabling of any further insights into the true nature of universe especially.
That word was on Freds sight, someone who I hold in high regard and repect.

You fruitcake are contemptuous , and a little piece of shite.

Kevin

[Mikado14]

What a total dickhead this fruitcake is.
http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewt ... &start=650
He posts assumptions as fact.
He is a liar, a demented dickhead of a liar.
The only reason I decided to leave that site was to rid Myself of having to read His F###### lies any longer.

I am sure He can or will read this.
F''''''''' Yourself dickhead.
Kevin

I went to the link. I saw in his own post that there was a day he did wish you dead. He openly admitted it.

And yet in the very same post he talks about glass houses, bazookas of truth and rockets of reason.

Sane people have moments in which they wish to do harm to others but what makes them sane is that they do not follow through on their thought. But to wish someone dead either by illness or the actions of someone else shows some type of mental imbalance if not just illness.

As to his posting assumptions/lies. Those that are first to cast aspersions as he and Linda have done without stating verifiable fact/s are what Freud described as projection. They defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others. Thus, those that lie themselves will accuse others of being a liar.

Fruitbat called me a liar. Linda has called me a liar. In the first, I told him to prove it, he never did. In the second, I started posting how Linda was the liar with citations etc. Even when witnesses have come forth and posted, she still stands her ground....I know....it must be a conspiracy.

kevin, he will not change. He is a closed minded individual, just look at how he is so stuck on a lifter and refuses to look at any evidence posted by various schools etc that have researched the principle. They must be wrong...it is a conspiracy....it does not fit with his mental model of how it should be. That is what I see between the two of you. You describe what you see in your mind and he cant' accept it but yet we are to accept what he sees in his mind when it comes to "his" lifter and how he wants to build one to go into space, my advice, he better get a good paying job first. Consider the source. Both he and Linda are apparently of a similar mental capacity. Minds like a steel trap....closed....nothing get in or out.

wags, I have found you to be nothing but as objective as you could be. However, I believe at times that you allow your feelings of friendship to enter into what you see or how you analyze the situation. That is not unusual for you allow your feelings of the friendship at times to enter into what you say. Frutibat cannot see that. It would appear that his definition of friendship is that you are not allowed to have your own thoughts or opinions of a situation that do not agree with his. If you don't agree with him than you can't possibly be his friend, you must be an enemy. Pretty cut and dry. Sound familiar?

This will not end. As much as one tries to let it pass there comes a point where a rebuttal is necessary if only to let emotional steam. They, Linda and fruitbat, will continue to present their truths and call others liars for they believe if they scream it long enough, in defiance of fact, then it will become true.

kevin, keep talking about what you see. As I said before, there are similarities to what you state and Brown's writings...he wrote them over 60 years ago. Two separate individuals apart by time and distance who can give similar thoughts .....must be something there.

wags, be your own person as you have been. I look forward to your objective views, if you get personal....well....you are human.

Mikado

[wags]

Thanks for that Mikado.

I note that the 'self deception' oneself has echoes of children of the lie'.

[kevin]

Mikado, and everyone else, sorry.
I shouldn't allow such as that fruitcake to blow off My safety valve and use such language, but what a fruitcake He is.
As for Him going into space, well He couldn't manage to find Me in a village of 200 homes, so best of British to Him zooming off into space ( We are in space always)
Kevin