Setting the record straight

[wags]

Paul's book was in essence dropped because the author no longer believed in his characters, and hated the scenery.

Linda has a problem with what Paul based that 'disbelief' on, and flumuxed as to why he hates the greater ambiance.

[kevin]

I can't give an exact date but I joined the ttbrown forum in August of 2006 and Paul was already writing the first draft...can't remember what chapter he was on.

I can say that Paul's writing the book along with the subsequent Due-Diligence that raised certain questions as to the veracity of the sources of information given to him, has tainted the entire story. Subsequent research I have done, of which I have shared openly and some privately only serves to reinforce the fact that Brown was a man and not a demigod as Linda would prefer. When a Father abandons a child in the manner that Brown did in her formative years, she more than likely created imaginary friends if not an imaginary father figure in his absence.

As to anything substantiated, I can say several but one thing is for certain and is publicly available and that was that Brown was living with a young man who was 15 years his junior from 1935 till 1940, at least. He was being kept by him. Also, he never finished High School in a document written in his own hand writing. But of course, let us not cloud the issue that he was a man for he is the saviour to all physics for all mankind but it is so secret that only Linda knows...and of course Morgan who was really Dave Smith living in Phoenixville but they are writing a book to release it to the world disguised as fiction but it will be proclaimed to be based on fact.....how convenient.....how predictable.

Mikado

I have been somewhat disinterested this past week due to horrendous dental operations I have had , but am settling back in now.
mikado,
The implications are clear from what You state here that Dr Brown was perhaps bi sexual....is that what You are stating, and is there clear records of what You state???
I couldn't care a hoot if He was or wasn't, but You will surely have ignited a hornets nest reaction from Linda.
My senses have always admired Dr Brown as an outstanding human being ....full stop.

The time frame You are stating will have had a very different view on bi sexuality than presently, and I am certain such accusations will have been used to try and blacken many peoples names , whether true or not, similer then to calling someone a communist, presently it would be like accusing someone of been an al queda sympathiser, or such?

Anyway ,Your post will have the same response as kicking a hornets nest over....certain.
Kevin

[StarCat]

I was wondering if any of the research and work claims had ever been substantiated. The post regarding TT 's orientation simply lends credence to the claim that the Hut's raison d'etre is blacken TTB' s name.

Cat

[wags]

I can't give an exact date but I joined the ttbrown forum in August of 2006 and Paul was already writing the first draft...can't remember what chapter he was on.

I can say that Paul's writing the book along with the subsequent Due-Diligence that raised certain questions as to the veracity of the sources of information given to him, has tainted the entire story.

Here is the issue that Linda does not appreciate, the veracity reliability of witness statements in this case Linda contradicts the available evidence. From Mikado's and Paul's point of view; worth repeating for Linda, from Mikado and Paul's point of view. Who wants to write or read a fictional account of TTB for that matter. In common parlance 'lying'. A word that agreed should not grace the title of the thread, much like X has judged you all, and the outrageous defamation claims made about Kim and her children.

Mikado then presents one example of this apparent divergence:-

Subsequent research I have done, of which I have shared openly and some privately only serves to reinforce the fact that Brown was a man and not a demigod as Linda would prefer. When a Father abandons a child in the manner that Brown did in her formative years, she more than likely created imaginary friends if not an imaginary father figure in his absence.

This is an opinion based on trying to make sense of what is going on. I concur that TTB is only a mere moral like us all a mere speck of dust. I think it is dangerous all round to ascribing any reason in particular to Linda's apparent behaviour toward you Mikado; any more than I think Linda is being counter productive.

As to anything substantiated, I can say several but one thing is for certain and is publicly available and that was that Brown was living with a young man who was 15 years his junior from 1935 till 1940, at least. He was being kept by him. Also, he never finished High School in a document written in his own hand writing.

Either this is true or it is mistaken. I see no claim of abuse, living at the same address does not impart what that relationship was. There are a whole variety of possibilities. Of interest mind is the lack of education and how that fits into his claims as a scientist and as an employee of the government. In what way does this period (1935 to 1940) contradict the story relayed originally.

But of course, let us not cloud the issue that he was a man for he is the saviour to all physics for all mankind but it is so secret that only Linda knows...and of course Morgan who was really Dave Smith living in Phoenixville but they are writing a book to release it to the world disguised as fiction but it will be proclaimed to be based on fact.....how convenient.....how predictable.

Maybe a straightforward timeline side by side rather than endless prose that is not working. apparent deciet about Myles is one example of you lying to your forumites, and that had diddly s"£$ to do with Mikado.

[Mikado14]

I can't give an exact date but I joined the ttbrown forum in August of 2006 and Paul was already writing the first draft...can't remember what chapter he was on.

I can say that Paul's writing the book along with the subsequent Due-Diligence that raised certain questions as to the veracity of the sources of information given to him, has tainted the entire story. Subsequent research I have done, of which I have shared openly and some privately only serves to reinforce the fact that Brown was a man and not a demigod as Linda would prefer. When a Father abandons a child in the manner that Brown did in her formative years, she more than likely created imaginary friends if not an imaginary father figure in his absence.

As to anything substantiated, I can say several but one thing is for certain and is publicly available and that was that Brown was living with a young man who was 15 years his junior from 1935 till 1940, at least. He was being kept by him. Also, he never finished High School in a document written in his own hand writing. But of course, let us not cloud the issue that he was a man for he is the saviour to all physics for all mankind but it is so secret that only Linda knows...and of course Morgan who was really Dave Smith living in Phoenixville but they are writing a book to release it to the world disguised as fiction but it will be proclaimed to be based on fact.....how convenient.....how predictable.

Mikado

I have been somewhat disinterested this past week due to horrendous dental operations I have had , but am settling back in now.
mikado,
The implications are clear from what You state here that Dr Brown was perhaps bi sexual....is that what You are stating, and is there clear records of what You state???
I couldn't care a hoot if He was or wasn't, but You will surely have ignited a hornets nest reaction from Linda.
My senses have always admired Dr Brown as an outstanding human being ....full stop.

The time frame You are stating will have had a very different view on bi sexuality than presently, and I am certain such accusations will have been used to try and blacken many peoples names , whether true or not, similer then to calling someone a communist, presently it would be like accusing someone of been an al queda sympathiser, or such?

Anyway ,Your post will have the same response as kicking a hornets nest over....certain.
Kevin

Kevin,

My post is not saying anything I haven't said before.

viewtopic.php?p=32016#p32016

<snip>
You want legal action, bring it on, let the subpoenas begin and the depositions. They will include some individuals you may not want present, for instance, Paul Schatzkin and all the info in regard to the IP addresses and let's not forget the family of the young boy who was living with your Dad by the last name of Peterson, he was under 21 when your Dad was in his 30's. And a wealth of info of a personal nature. It really wasn't that hard to find but so many, so very many, just look for the science. Anyway, this may have been the likely reason your Father was discharged.
<snip>

If you look at the date, It is almost 21 months ago that I first stated what I knew and the info I had. I even gave the name of the young man. And here is one from earlier in the year raising the question of addresses from the later part of the 30's.

viewtopic.php?p=37314#p37314

<snip>
And one more item. According to a post made about "poetry". It was pointed out to me by Kim that there is an error as to Brown's address. He lists it as the USS Nashville and then at the University of Pennsylvania. This occurred in 1938, as to the Nashville, and then several weeks later it was reported as the University. Now, at the very latest it could be in the early part of 1939.

However, I have a government document whereas Brown listed an address from 1935 until 1940 that is in contradiction to the above. I can see the listing of the Nashville so as to receive a publication since it is a duty station at sea. If Brown was still in the Navy, why would he list an address, on dry land, at the University when on a government document it is listed elsewhere and in a completely different state?

There is a distinct lie lurking around here somewhere.

So in the end, what the yammering and rantings of a sociopath are attempting is to do exactly what she should have done 20 months ago when I first posted. Did she ever attempt to look up the name Peterson? Not from what I have seen and if she did or she does, she will find out he was born in 1920. I find her claim that he was probably her Father's body guard a bit ludicrous.

On another note, I attempted to look up to see if there were any adoption records, foster records or anything of that sort from the address on the original government document. None could be found.

This young man his body guard? Would you believe that a 15 year old would be the body guard for a 30 year old man?

Maybe kicking the hornet's nest will get her off her ass to look up this information. She could take some of the money from selling her dogs to find out the information to write a truthful history of the man but instead, she is using her Father to be the center of attention. If she really was a "devoted daughter", she would find out all the information that is buried out there, the problem is that it cost money. George would never stand for that. So, she reports stories that "come across her desk" or something that she "just received" to make claims and yet she demands my sources.

When she sues me in court, she will get the sources but then, she will be countered sued and there will many deposed....Dave Smith, Harold from Boston, Andrew Bolland and George and then all those IP's will be questioned and then I will have Paul Schatzkin deposed.

She needs to take a few deep breaths and do some serious research into her Father, she may not like what she will find and she might but in any event, she may discover that he was a man and had his foibles as any other man but the problem with that is that the crystal world she has built as a young child about her Father will shatter. She will not stand for that so she will continue to deny the historical record by telling more grandiose stories and to attempt to discredit those that report the historical record.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

I was wondering if any of the research and work claims had ever been substantiated. The post regarding TT 's orientation simply lends credence to the claim that the Hut's
is blacken TTB' s name.

Cat

Cat,

The Hut does not exist to defame Townsend Brown. I cannot help, that information that I took time to research and spend money in the process, that it indicates something other than what has been reported from a young girl's diary and from anonymous individuals who sent anonymous emails to a writer.

The Due-Diligence was started on March 20 of 2012. It was to look at the discrepancies and contradicting facts as written versus the historical record. I further researched facts of the man from the historical record. Some of this information requires one to pay a fee for access to the data base. Sometimes there were results, other times there was nothing but I persevered. I did this to build a database of my own in the event Linda sued me since she claimed she had a lawyer on retainer...and then she claimed she had two on retainer. At that point, I knew she was bull flop but I continued anyway.

You make the claim that I am possibly out to defame Brown. Do a search of this site if you believe that and look for how many times I have stated that Linda herself with her antics are defaming her Father's name. The way she states things, one would think that if it wasn't for her Father, we would still be living in the technology prior to his birth. She is intimating quite a few grandiose unsubstantiated claims with no basis from any historical record. I make a statement from the historical record and she wants to claim foul.

I have always stated on this site that she needs to shut up with these grandiose statements of unsubstantiated fact where she intertwines her Father with fictional characters interacting in historical situations. Eventually, more truth will surface and it may be contrary to what she has stated as fact and it may not.

Does it really matter what Brown was like in his personal life versus what his work was? Not in my book. Every breathing person has a life that is different from their work. Does any idea Brown had was influenced by his personal life? Not to my knowledge.

I understand that she is making statements that I claimed her Father was a "perverted child molester". Where did I use those words? Who is the one embellishing from one paragraph of a post I made and adding words claiming I said? Who is the one who gives links and quotes - Linda or myself? Why is she afraid to link and quote my post? Simple answer is that she cannot "yammer" and make false quotes in regard to me.

I have always maintained that in any event, the work I and others are doing would always credit Brown with the foundation of our work. This is regardless of the private life of the man. Does it matter what his sexual orientation is when it comes to his work? How about the fact that his son moved out of the house as a teenager to live with family in Ohio...does that have any bearing on his work? Or how about the nature of his discharge? How about the fact he was a terrible Father in leaving his family for long periods of time?

None of that matters in regard to his work. However, I am not making claims based upon information from individuals that do not exist.

I am guilty of stating information I have found. I may have given interpretation of those facts but at least, at the very least, those interpretations are based upon the historical record.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

This thread is "Setting the record straight".

Linda's recent hysteria needs no record straightening. She is making post after post all based upon a paragraph from this thread. However, as I have posted above, it is not a new statement although Linda would attempt to make it appear that way. She is also adding to it with words I never said.

Her recent posts do not deserve a rebuttal nor require one. She is making the mountain out of the molehill from one paragraph. If she put the energy that she is putting into her rant, she would have more historical facts from the record than she has now.

I will not be manipulated into a "back and forth" between two forums in this instance on facts that she could easily acquire with a monthly fee agreement for research and I will not supply it to her. Let her spend her money as I did, she deserves nothing free...but I have free rent in her head.

If she truly wanted the truth then come here and ask. She has the ability to come here and read thus she has the ability to login and post. However, she would rather tilt at a windmill and that would be the Hut. She feels the need for an adversary in her quest to write a fictional account based upon facts that only she and Dave Smith know. Now wouldn't her endeavour be much the richer when an adversary is in the picture?

The simple answer...of course...and it appears it is the Hut.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

Linda, this is to you.

You apparently are copying things from here and posting them. I am not going to bother with links etc.

You are very poor in math. Mr. Peterson, if alive, would be 95 since he was born in 1920. Are you reading what I wrote or are you just running with your choke out and stating what you are supposing?

As it says what you copied. Sue me. You will get all the sources of my material but then I will be certainly counter-suing you! We can do exactly what you want....make it public!

You are the one who is making a mountain out of a mole hill. You are the one is really doing the yammering.

Twigsnapper is alive? He will live as long as you do and pass on in peace.

I have not defamed Brown. I am merely stating what is publicly available. If you weren't so hot under the color, you would pull out the wedgie you have and look up some of this stuff. Spend a bit of money from the sale of one dog and you will more than likely find what I found.

You want so desperately for your Daddy to be this perfect person who advanced science beyond Tesla's polyphase but it isn't to be. You said yourself, he was an idea man and passed his ideas on to others but not until he patented his idea. How much did he really make from his patented ideas? How well did those patents provide for you and your Mother? I don't remember reading about that in the biography. What I read was the memoirs of a young girl who more than likely fantasized about her Father and that is what Paul found to be one, only one of many, of the problems with the whole thing.

If you were serious, there are some answers out there. Spend the money. If you think I am going to just turn over what I spent my money on which was done after you claimed to have a lawyer on retainer, excuse me, two lawyers on retainer, then you are sadly mistaken. If I state that I have found something then you can bet your last dog that I have the proof. Anyone here can do it if they are serious and willing to spend a few bucks. Otherwise, they are like you, a bag of hot air attempting to float a story. Sort of like that bag of shells Paul spoke about....and empty shells to boot.

Find some peace in your life and accept the fact that the reality is not the one in your head although if you put enough Linda's in a room with a typewriter, I am sure they will get some of the facts correct.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

....denying what has been said.

I have explained the relationship with Howard (not his real name which he was insistent for me to not post and apparently with well intent) many times. I have stated how I would post for him from emails and they were short emails, and over the phone, where as I did rewrite them to appear in proper context. When someone sends an email that is more or less grammatically broken and in a form of short hand, they needed to be rewritten and it was done with his permission. But here is what Linda has said to kevin (I will do what Linda does and answer within the quote to save some time):

http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewt ... 207#p37207

Re: A Blind Hobbit on the HUT
Postby Linda Brown » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:36 pm

You are absolutely right Kevin when you just wrote. " We have all spent years trying to unravel it all" Precisely. And still you are blind.
Funny how Mikado claims that his Traveller ( Jim Zimmer) was in a position to check out all of the IPs and stuff on the other Forums... and yet I (who you know can not find my way out of most computer situations... was supposed to be the mastermind behind all of that. The culprit is standing right there. Doing Mikados bidding.... and still you do not see him.

Here is a perfect example of how Linda does not pay attention and constructs a reality to fit her intentions. No where did I ever say that Traveler ever checked out IP's on other sites, only on this forum. The IP's that came from the History Channel I received from my cousin, an attorney in LA, who did a favor. He is also the one who was able to establish that Chuck Norris did not nor ever did know a Linda Brown nor someone named David Smith. The Traveler could have checked IP's on Paul's forum but never did since he was a Moderator/Admin when it was opened back up. So, I never have mentioned/claimed that he garnered any IP's from other forums. As always, she is delusional and stating nothing more than a fabrication (substitute lie if you wish)

And as far as "Morgan" and Twigsnapper contacting Paul Schatzkin. How does Mikado know that Paul has not been contacted? Does he have any relationship at all with that writer? Has he even spoken to him? Or written to him? My impression is that Paul is not ready to " revisit" the Townsend Brown material....and that Mikado has been acting totally on his own in his attempts at " due diligence".... even without Pauls interest or consent.

And how does she know I have not been in contact with Paul? If Linda knows, and she should since she is in constant contact with Morgan...errr...Dave Smith, then she is misdirecting by stating questions in an attempt to imply she knows something. IF I were in contact with Paul, I certainly would not admit that I was. Is that statement an admission...take anyway you want. As to the "due-diligence", I have always stated that it was an independent endeavour. Is Paul interested in what has been done? I would bet the penny I got from twigsnapper on that...I mean the penny that Linda got and misrepresented it to me as being from twigsnapper. For the record, I would bet that same penny that Paul is reading here, I know I would want to see what was going on for afterall, he still has an active contract with Linda and he is not a stupid man and attempts to be informed. With that said, if he did not agree with what I was doing, I am sure I would have gotten a "cease and desist" letter from either him or his attorney.

Your statements ring hollow, Linda.

Look again at the things that "Howard"... ( Ridgerunner) wrote in the earlier Forums. Do you see Mikados hand there? He was lying and backstabbing the whole time and he is still doing it and yet you stand there flatfooted and let him get away with it. Yes, it is terribly sad. Also.,.... not my problem any more.

If it is not your problem than what is all the hubbub? Your actions belie what you say. It is a problem for you and it is something that the innocents that you have deceived must endure.

Mikado has nothing. Never had anything and is still trying to bluff all of you. the word DUPED here is exactly as I meant it.

The season has changed Hobbit.

If I have nothing then again, why all the static? Why all the repeated postings? Why all the dedicated threads directed at this forum and members here? It is apparent who was is attempting to "dupe". The little girl in the pinafore dress with her hands on her hips and complaining for she didn't get her way constructed on a foundation of stories. The problem is, so much has been shown to be wrong, what is truly right in connection to Brown? Who has done the most damage to finding out any truths in regard to Brown?

That is what is sad, his own daughter to only feed her ego driven persona.

Linda
Townsend Brown Family Consortium
December 22, 2015

I also find it curious that Linda is able to repost a post from the Hut that was made on October 21st of 2009. http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewt ... 199#p37199 All those posts are behind a password protected area. Now I know that only a few have that password and that none of them have given it out. Secondly, she has not provided a link which is a violation of even fair use. So, how is it that she has this post?

I would bet that she did the same thing to this forum that she did to Paul's. Paul, if your reading this, Linda had your forum mirrored and a nice chunk of money was spent (paid by someone else and I wonder if they were ever reimbursed?) and this was found out in Vegas of August 2010. She is a thief/copyright violator. What information I found out on the "due-diligence" was either public or I paid for it. If public, I put up the link. If I paid for it, I did not for I "paid" for it.

Where are Linda's sources other than the referenced..."across my desk"? Nothing has ever been verified with any links, she can't even post links from posts she copies from here but she can put up other links? She demands proof consistently from others but when she is confronted for proof, a deaf ear is turned toward the questioner or she will make blathering posts with demeaning words/statements that come forth.

...yaawwwwwnnnn....always more of the same. Sorry for the boring and obvious post.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

She was afforded the opportunity in July of 2011 to meet Howard at the McDonald's in Phoenixville.

She refused to meet him.

To quote Linda, "that is not my problem". However, by not meeting him and then denying his existence is a construction. If it would have been me and the offer was made, I would have jumped at the chance to either do one of two things:

1. Call a bluff

2. Ask direct questions

She is not as smart as she would like to believe. In fact, she is a poor tactician. I wonder....did she have a lawyer look at the contract she had with Paul? Evidently the answer to that would be no and if she did, let us know the name so other's will not hire him for contract law.

Mikado