Setting the record straight

[Mikado14]

To fruitbat:

You are wrong for your analysis is tainted by more than likely personal feelings so therefore it is not objective as much as subjective.

It is 5 to 1 individuals that have seen the facts and come to a conclusion of truth. By your analysis, those that see the truth are bullies against someone who fabricates truths, tells stories about real people, gives false identities to real people and can supply no facts, verifiable and not her word, to correct facts that she claims are wrong that are publicly available and continues to talk about these imaginary characters when multiple individuals have met them face to face and they claim they are not what she says.

Oh, I just realized, in your world, and Linda's, that is bullying.

Mikado

[wags]

FB has made a few remarks indeed, but I would say that he needs to review the actual evidence. Causation and effect, also the impact of damaging allegations on the mental health of others. No one is perfect including me, and I am not at home or agree with every word post. I am not part of a team or 'mobbing' of Linda. I defend my position and at least make an attempt to appreciate different perspectives however much I may disagree. It is called having an open mind. If you communicate with Mikado you will discover I have made attempts to sort out all this injurious activity, in a fair and dignified manner. Linda simply cannot impose her view of reality on everyone else, and aggressively and yes use bullying to suppress others. You know full well my own science views yet I accept others without attempting to silence or suppress them. Indeed ironically I am more likely to defend the person's right to express themselves against aggressive bullying activity, I cite Kevin as a prime example here.

Why do you not just come over here, show a bit of class and exercise that mind of yours in a proper conversation with the people you have accused of lying and see if you can negotiate a peace. You have the ability, and deep down the will, as demonstrated by your recent attempt to find a proper solution. Linda regardless of her age has to take responsibility for her actions, something that she singularly has failed to accomplish.

Put simply for a simpleton, though FB you are no simpleton, the only individual amongst us that refuses to accept different points of view and respects others is Ms Brown. You of all people should have realised that.

It is not possible nor practical to provide others with my understanding, any more than others should expect me to fully understand them. I am of course offended by your comments that seeks to make a comparison between clearly mendacious activity with defensive activity. You should have listened more to what bullying actually is.

As for the three persons you believe, perceive have lied to you. What evidence do you have that they have intentionally lied. I can think of one case where you made that mistake. At all times I have attempted to be honest in my dealings with you, as I do appreciate the damage lying does to you and others. The worst lie though is the lie that you tell yourself.

[wags]

FB,

Or of course get in your car and drive here and discuss it, I will even finance the whole thing, and I will explain what bullying is and Mikado can ring me here to protect your number.

Wags.

PS I am a bit short though on tolerance as I packed up cigarettes last week. lol

[Mikado14]

I did try to find out what were the conditions that would stop either side from engaging in conflict with the other it is true, and whilst Linda was very clear about her objectives, I was told that whilst the other side did have such conditions, I wasn't to be made privy to them. Obviously they like things just as they are...

Who told you what conditions? You never talked with me. IF you are referring to conversations that I had with wags and then your possible subsequent conversations with him, it would be very unfair for you to put wags in that position. You want answers then you talk to me, it is that simple.

As for things the way they are, I have said, Linda shuts the hell up and stops talking about me or the Hut and those here, then and therefore, there would be no need for rebuttals. However, in any event, if that were to happen, it does not mean that I would forego any analysis of the book "Defying Gravity" for that is open and is public.

Mikado

[wags]

I did try to find out what were the conditions that would stop either side from engaging in conflict with the other it is true, and whilst Linda was very clear about her objectives, I was told that whilst the other side did have such conditions, I wasn't to be made privy to them. Obviously they like things just as they are...

Who told you what conditions? You never talked with me. IF you are referring to conversations that I had with wags and then your possible subsequent conversations with him, it would be very unfair for you to put wags in that position. You want answers then you talk to me, it is that simple.

As for things the way they are, I have said, Linda shuts the hell up and stops talking about me or the Hut and those here, then and therefore, there would be no need for rebuttals. However, in any event, if that were to happen, it does not mean that I would forego any analysis of the book "Defying Gravity" for that is open and is public.

Mikado

That is a misrepresentation of what I understood to have corresponded. He should publish the correspondence to back that claim up.

[Mikado14]

You have my permission to publish anything in regard to that topic that we may have exchanged but alas, I believe most of any, if at all, occurred over the phone.

Mikado

[wags]

I don't think that would be acceptable for me to do. They are contain private information in addition as examples that would only confuse matters.

Mind you could publish the original PM's between You and I, when I asked what you wanted in bullet points. They are much clearer and succinct. From when I was on the Token. They are our first PM's. They would be instructive.

[Kim]

I see Linda has started a new thread. She titled it "Why Kim burned papers". I would love to see what her answer is. So I am asking here, why did I burn the papers Linda? I know she will not answer this question. She will state that She doesn't owe me any answers. I think that when Fruitbat asked her the same question she still didn't give a satisfactory answer. Another question I think Fruitbat should ask her, is how she can truly say she KNOWS I burned those papers. Does she have any evidence? Kim

[kevin]

I don't know the contents of any papers trickfox sent,but it speaks volumes about who He trusted with them.
Kevin

[kevin]

For fruitcake to post openly on the web accusing posters of this forum as been liars,with no evidence, fully justifies Me calling him fruitcake.
Kevin