Beginners Electromagnetism Class

[KarenAnn23]

Hut Master,

As always great advise, I also want to take time time to say that ..In my humble opinion that TTB, was such a wise man that this is happing the way he wanted it to..he selflessly gave of himself and people should know this..

what is the first step to going about TTB's ideal ( aaahhh Blue) my screen not green yea...

Karen

[langley]

Jumping in late here. And trying to obey the KISS principle. Being stupid in most things here I have to.

Electromagnetism may be normally considered a force. However, it is also a carrier. Light is a form of electromagnetic wave (Faraday, who's mate with the maths was Maxwell).

Electromagnetic waves cover a spectrum of frequencies.

The higher the frequency, the more energy is transmitted per unit time.

Everything from radio, TV, light are the same thing. Electromagnetic waves. The only difference between radio and daylight is frequency. And as you would expect me to add, ionising radiation - alpha, beta, gamma, neutron - are merely again electromagnetic waves (the "particulate" alpha, beta, neutron being electromagnetic waves because of the energy of the particles in this instance allows a change in behaviour - once de energised they become plain old particles again) but waves with sufficient energy to cause ionisation. Hence the name.

To anyone familiar with a little bit of FM radio theory, one knows that electromagnetic waves may carry data. eg the carrier frequency within an FM radio signal which once decoded allows stereo music to played on a suitable radio. etc.

So as well as being waves, electromagnetic waves may carry data - in the computer ages we are aware of "packet theory" and packet radio has by and large replaced shortwave long range radio for example. Though basically the same thing, packet radio is a digial transmission. Anyhow.

Humanity has never changed the nature of the cosmos, we merely discover the pre existing nature. So all the above existed actually or potentially before the word "Doobie Brothers" was ever thought of and their music transmitted over the electromagnetic spectrum. That part of it called FM.

So whats naturally encoded in natural electromagnetic waves?

Has anyone looked?

Another interesting thing about electromagnetic waves is this : for example imagine a gamma ray coming from a source. One imagines an undulating wave form ( a sine wave) like a set of ocean waves that have peaks and troughs in a vertical orientation. Well gamma rays (and I guess all electromagnetic waves have such undulations not just up and down but laterally as well. And the primary vector (lets say direction) of a gamma ray might be north south but there is a secondary vector that is east west as well.
A bit like standing on the side of the road when a big rig passes at high speed. As the truck passes, you get blown sideways. (rough as bags example but that will do). Secondary vector.

Ok now finally, the data density of an electromagnetic wave may be very high. Lots of data in little time.

Imagine a car engine. revving at idle at 800 rpm, you are using a timing light to check the ignition setting. The timing light is triggered when ever current goes to number 1 cylinder's spark plug. OK the engines runnning at 800 rpm. And the spark plug is firing only once every four cycles of the cylinder. If its a single cylinder engine (to keep it simple) the spark pllug is firing 800rpm divided by 4 (Intake, compression, IGNITION, exhaust (the Otto cycle) Thats um (takes socks off) 200 times a minute or 3.33 times a second. OK, when you look at the timing light, it seems basically to be on all the time (a visual thing called persistence of vision) (crap caps in the visual cortex no doubt) . But its not. The light is off more often than it is on. But we cant percieve that.

Only when we aim the timing light at the revolving cranshaft pulley with the timing notch or mark on it ( paint the mark or notch white for clarity) we can see that when the timing of the engine is in range, the notch on the block and the mark on the pulley seem to stand still in the presence of the light from the timing light.

Its a human thing. Using electromagnetic waves (light, on and off at high rates) to enable an observation of a rapidly rotation part ( the crankshaft pulley). OK the light from the timing light isnt transmitting actual embedded data in this example, but the frequency of "off to on" is .

Same thing : If you have a flurescent clock - like maybe a lit oven timer or whatever, look at it. Solid as a rock right. OK now put a fan in front of it. Turn the fan on. The illuminated numerials on the fluroscent timer appear to flicker right. Thats because they normally do. But we cant percieve it. (turn the fan away from the oven timer and look at the washing up waiting to be down. It does flicker or go away does it? (drats)

OK. At the frequency of normal light there is no way of us percieving unaided what data is encoded naturally in it. Electromagnetic waves are the way energy as frequency transmits or propagates through space (distance) and per unit of time natural electromagnetic waves may be intensely data rich.

End of missive. None of this has much to do with iron fillings on a table and a strong magnetic being moved underneath the table top.

Oh yea, nearly forgot. There is a way of percieving E = M etc and vice versa in the inverse as meaning that STUFF (E=M) (same stuff) manifests as energy (read, in the main, electromagnetic waves) up to a certain energy density per volume of space. Above that point, it manifests as matter. Like electrons etc.

Oh, yea also, and btw, never operate revolving machinery under fluro lights. the "timing light" thing trickes the eyes and the machinery, (Lathe, milling machine etc) may appear to be not revolving. People have lost limbs because of it.

What we percieve is little guide to the nature of electromagnetic waves or reality in general. In that sense, we are all deluded, for we make assumptions based on beliefs that arise from experience, not observation of the nature of the cosmos. And so our beliefs are untested. A medical definition of paranoid delusion. And thats normal.

To test one's beliefs in this matter may be very expensive and would require lots of equipment. (Fan, oven, timing light, car engine, linear accelerator, Cern etc, armless lathe operator made so by fluro lights etc ).

Everything either is or was sourced from electromagnetic waves.

[langley]

OK take the timing light and car engine. Everything is the same as above. For simplicity, its a single cylinder 4 stroke motor. Increase the revs to 10,000 revs per minute. You can still see the timing mark on the crankshaft pulley in relation to the timing mark on the engine block as if it were standing still. At that rpm -10,000 - the spark plug is firing still at the rate of once every 4 revolutions. But at 10,000 rpm thats 2,500 times a minute. Or 41.67 times a second. The current causing the spark plug to fire on time is in the form of discrete pulses that we cannot percieve with our senses. You could definately read a book by the steady light the timing light appears to put out at that rpm. But its flickering 41.67 times a second. We can only deduce that when we aim the timing light at the crankshaft pulley, which is revolving at 10,000 rpm or 166.67 times a second. It is this interaction of frequency (how often something repeats) - of the timing light and the crankshaft pulley (or the fan speed and the oven timer illuminated numerals in the other non petrol head example given in the previous post) that enables us to percieve things.

If a fluro light (which flickers at a high rate) shines on a revolving lathe turning at the right rate, it will really and truly appear to be not turning at all. Which is why you wont find fluro lights in workshops where lathes are present - its illegal for that reason.

Now, what we see we see as a result of light, light is an electromagnetic wave. It has frequency. It "flickers" at a very very high rate. Everything we see around us is akin to a revolving crankshaft pulley. The cosmos is not stationary. What we see is an interaction of frequencies. Even our visual circuitry has a flicker rate in our brains.

What is encoded in light naturally? who can say ? who knows the address of the packets? From where does it come? If it is there, why is it there? What is it telling us?

Record a conversation through your computer mike and play it back through a program like Audacity - something that can show the frequency and wave form - the peaks and valleys of convesations, the straight line of silence. Turn the volume right down. Looking at the graph of the waveform, can you decode the words the waveform represents? Only if you remember the conversation and even then it would be very very hard. Turn the volume up. Now it makes sense.

When TT noted a variation in sidereal radiation did he wonder - what - is this a conversation - what is the data - whats in the packets - what are the "words" (data) between pauses. What is the frequecy, where does it come from. Is it encoded.

From iron fillings to metaphysics via frequency and frequency interactions.

AND TIME CAN BE VERY DATA RICH. MANY MANY BITS PER SECOND.

[KarenAnn23]

Hey Paul,

Great to hear from you...can we go back to the light being the same 1st....LOL I'll have to reread this and make more since for me..amazing !!!

And I hope your well

Karen

[langley]

Hey Paul,

Great to hear from you...can we go back to the light being the same 1st....LOL I'll have to reread this and make more since for me..amazing !!!

And I hope your well

Karen

Oh I am a naughty boy. Ask Linda. Brain storms I have. (Yoda mode)
Im fine. How are you. I take your bros have a timing light.

Light. It is the same. Electromagnetic frequency.
Its what Im saying.
First things first. Nate, not arguing with him. Agreeing. To the extent Im capable of.
Maxwell's equations. Maxwell had a mate. Faraday. And Maxwell set out to back his mate with Maths. See when Faraday said Light was electromagnetic people laughed at him. Maxwell's equations (which Faraday couldnt do) are the result. And lead, through others, direct to Einstien. (and as you'd expect from me) It leads to the Bomb. 200 million electron volts released per every atom fissioned - Mietner 1939, who calculated the figure correctly by applyng Einstein. The bomb is a proof of Einstein via Mietner.

Anyhow, as you say, light being the same. Electromagnetic.

OK here's some links re the guy who first said light was electromagnetic wave.

Faraday. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday
Michael Faraday, FRS (22 September 1791 – 25 August 1867) was an English chemist and physicist (or natural philosopher, in the terminology of the time) who contributed to the fields of electromagnetism and electrochemistry.

Faraday studied the magnetic field around a conductor carrying a DC electric current, and established the basis for the electromagnetic field concept in physics. He discovered electromagnetic induction, diamagnetism, and laws of electrolysis. He established that magnetism could affect rays of light and that there was an underlying relationship between the two phenomena.[1][2] His inventions of electromagnetic rotary devices formed the foundation of electric motor technology, and it was largely due to his efforts that electricity became viable for use in technology.


Although Faraday received little formal education and knew little of higher mathematics, such as calculus, he was one of the most influential scientists in history. Some historians[3] of science refer to him as the best experimentalist in the history of science.[4] The SI unit of capacitance, the farad, is named after him, as is the Faraday constant, the charge on a mole of electrons (about 96,485 coulombs). Faraday's law of induction states that a magnetic field changing in time creates a proportional electromotive force.

Faraday was the first and foremost Fullerian Professor of Chemistry at the Royal Institution of Great Britain, a position to which he was appointed for life.

Albert Einstein kept a photograph of Faraday on his study wall alongside pictures of Isaac Newton and James Clerk Maxwell.[5]

Faraday was highly religious; he was a member of the Sandemanian Church, a Christian sect founded in 1730 which demanded total faith and commitment. Biographers have noted that "a strong sense of the unity of God and nature pervaded Faraday's life and work."[6]
(This is important. Faraday believed God communicated via nature and the nature of nature. It was a fundamental thing within the Sandemanian Church. What was God saying by placing the cosmos as it is around humanity. What are we being asked to look at and understand and why)

""I have at last succeeded in illuminating a magnetic curve or line of force and in magnetising a ray of light". : Faraday. This established that magnetic force and light were related."

http://inventors.about.com/library/inve ... araday.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light
Light is electromagnetic radiation, particularly radiation of a wavelength that is visible to the human eye (about 400–700 nm, or perhaps 380–750 nm[1]). In physics, the term light sometimes refers to electromagnetic radiation of any wavelength, whether visible or not.[2][3]

Four primary properties of light are:

* Intensity
* Frequency or wavelength
* Polarization
* Phase

Light, which exists in tiny "packets" called photons, exhibits properties of both waves and particles. This property is referred to as the wave–particle duality. The study of light, known as optics, is an important research area in modern physics.....

Generally, EM radiation (the designation 'radiation' excludes static electric and magnetic and near fields) is classified by wavelength into radio, microwave, infrared, the visible region we perceive as light, ultraviolet, X-rays and gamma rays.

The behavior of EM radiation depends on its wavelength. Higher frequencies have shorter wavelengths, and lower frequencies have longer wavelengths. When EM radiation interacts with single atoms and molecules, its behavior depends on the amount of energy per quantum it carries.
In 1845, Michael Faraday discovered that the plane of polarization of linearly polarized light is rotated when the light rays travel along the magnetic field direction in the presence of a transparent dielectric, an effect now known as Faraday rotation.[18] This was the first evidence that light was related to electromagnetism. In 1846 he speculated that light might be some form of disturbance propagating along magnetic field lines.[19] Faraday proposed in 1847 that light was a high-frequency electromagnetic vibration, which could propagate even in the absence of a medium such as the ether.

Faraday's work inspired James Clerk Maxwell to study electromagnetic radiation and light. Maxwell discovered that self-propagating electromagnetic waves would travel through space at a constant speed, which happened to be equal to the previously measured speed of light. From this, Maxwell concluded that light was a form of electromagnetic radiation: he first stated this result in 1862 in On Physical Lines of Force. In 1873, he published A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism, which contained a full mathematical description of the behaviour of electric and magnetic fields, still known as Maxwell's equations. Soon after, Heinrich Hertz confirmed Maxwell's theory experimentally by generating and detecting radio waves in the laboratory, and demonstrating that these waves behaved exactly like visible light, exhibiting properties such as reflection, refraction, diffraction, and interference. Maxwell's theory and Hertz's experiments led directly to the development of modern radio, radar, television, electromagnetic imaging, and wireless communications.
[edit] The special theory of relativity....." blah de blah.

[langley]

OK. So what happens when electromagnetic waves of differing frequencies interact?

Its hard to explain but using the Kiss principle, music is a reasonable analogy.

when one strikes one piano key one heards a single note. What happens when two keys are struck? Any muso will be able to explain it better than me. Harmonics. Two notes, and another formed by the interaction of the two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music)

Do the same thing with the right electromagnetic frequencies and well, who knows what would happen.

So ok one can study HAARP as a single emitter as long as one likes. But when one factors in what the RF frequencies it transmits are harmonically interacting with, well, who knows the result. I dont.

[langley]

OK so when two electromagnetic radiations of differing frequencies interact, there may be a result, a change, something new. Of course if two waves of the same frequency but of opposite phase meet they null each other out.

Inching towards a relationship between electromagnetic radiation and gravity lets look at how electromagnetic radiation interactions with matter.

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResource ... action.htm

It is well known that all matter is comprised of atoms. But subatomically, matter is made up of mostly empty space. For example, consider the hydrogen atom with its one proton, one neutron, and one electron. The diameter of a single proton has been measured to be about 10(to power of) -15 meters. The diameter of a single hydrogen atom has been determined to be 10 (to power of )-10 meters, therefore the ratio of the size of a hydrogen atom to the size of the proton is 100,000:1. Consider this in terms of something more easily pictured in your mind. If the nucleus of the atom could be enlarged to the size of a softball (about 10 cm), its orbiting electron would be approximately 10 kilometers away. Therefore, when electromagnetic waves pass through a material, they are primarily moving through free space, but may have a chance encounter with the nucleus or an electron of an atom. "

and so on. worth a read. imo. Seeing as matter and energy are the same stuff in different states . Like water as ice and water as steam.

[langley]

How might the military use interactions between sets of electromagnetic radiation? Just like two musical instruments, the harmonics of the deal give rise to a field known as ECM

Something TTB wasnt apparently a fifth man on the gun in regard to.
(Old army term, the fifth man was pretty useless, being used to hold the horses steady)

RADAR ECM

Basic RADAR ECM strategies are (1) RADAR interference, (2) target modifications, and (3) changing the electrical properties of air.[1] Interference techniques include jamming and deception. Jamming is accomplished by a friendly platform transmitting signals on the RADAR frequency to produce a noise level sufficient to hide echos.[1] The jammer's continuous transmissions will provide a clear direction to the enemy RADAR, but no range information.[1] Deception may use a transponder to mimic the RADAR echo with a delay to indicate incorrect range.[1] Transponders may alternatively increase return echo strength to make a small decoy appear to be a larger target.[1] Target modifications include RADAR absorbing coatings and modifications of the surface shape to either "stealth" a high-value target or enhance reflections from a decoy.[1] Dispersal of small aluminum strips called chaff is a common method of changing the electromagnetic properties of air to provide confusing RADAR echos.[1]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasures

And well the Navy did carry out EMC radar experiments at Philedephia Naval Docks. And it was highly secret. As were the frequencies used.

Anyhow, thats what electromagnetics means to me. Not two magnetics attracting/repelling each other. Thats largely irrelevant to the importance of the subject and certainly has no bearing on the electrical foundation of gravity. Its field interaction.

[htmagic]

How might the military use interactions between sets of electromagnetic radiation? Just like two musical instruments, the harmonics of the deal give rise to a field known as ECM
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Anyhow, thats what electromagnetics means to me. Not two magnetics attracting/repelling each other. Thats largely irrelevant to the importance of the subject and certainly has no bearing on the electrical foundation of gravity. Its field interaction.

Paul,

Two electromagnetic waves can add (multiply) or subtract (cancel) one another, depending upon the frequencies. It is reported that even if the two frequencies chosen cancel one another, a scalr field remains. This scalar field is the basis for Tesla's weapon and/or force field that he described. After Tesla's death, it was reported that the "CIA" broke into Tesla's apartment and removed his notes. Much of it was reportedly returned to his home country of Serbia (which was under Communist control). Supposedly this is the reasons the Russians were more advanced in scalar technology. Now the "CIA" may have had a hand, but now I believe this was a Caroline operation...

Check out this picture:


And read part of the writeup of this device (highlight mine).

In the pulse mode, a single intense 3-dimensional scalar phi-field pulse form is fired, using two truncated Fourier transforms, each involving several frequencies, to provide the proper 3-dimensional shape (Figure 10). This is why two scalar antennas separated by a baseline are required. After a time delay calculated for the particular target, a second and faster pulse form of the same shape is fired from the interferometer antennas. The second pulse overtakes the first, catching it over the target zone and pair-coupling with it to instantly form a violent EMP of ordinary vector (Hertzian) electromagnetic energy. There is thus no vector transmission loss between the howitzer and the burst. Further, the coupling time is extremely short, and the energy will appear sharply in an "electromagnetic pulse (EMP)" strikingly similar to the 2-pulsed EMP of a nuclear weapon.

This type weapon is what actually caused the mysterious flashes off the southwest coast of Africa, picked up in 1979 and 1980 by Vela satellites. The second flash, e.g., was in the infrared only, with no visible spectrum. Nuclear flashes do not do that, and neither does superlightning, meteorite strikes, meteors, etc. In addition, one of the scientists at the Arecibo Ionospheric Observatory observed a gravitational wave disturbance -- signature of the truncated Fourier pattern and the time-squeezing effect of the Tesla potential wave -- traveling toward the vicinity of the explosion.

So here we have two electromagnetic waves creating a gravitational wave disturbance. Hmmmm. This reminds me of the old Ghostbusters movie where they didn't want to cross the two beams because of what would happen...

[langley]

Paul,

Two electromagnetic waves can add (multiply) or subtract (cancel) one another, depending upon the frequencies. It is reported that even if the two frequencies chosen cancel one another, a scalr field remains. This scalar field is the basis for Tesla's weapon and/or force field that he described. After Tesla's death, it was reported that the "CIA" broke into Tesla's apartment and removed his notes. Much of it was reportedly returned to his home country of Serbia (which was under Communist control). Supposedly this is the reasons the Russians were more advanced in scalar technology. Now the "CIA" may have had a hand, but now I believe this was a Caroline operation...

So here we have two electromagnetic waves creating a gravitational wave disturbance. Hmmmm. This reminds me of the old Ghostbusters movie where they didn't want to cross the two beams because of what would happen...

Hi HT, on the ball as usual. I wasnt going to go there as I dont understand it well enough to explain what little I do understand. What we have here is a devils subwoofer.

I do remember some years ago there was a kerfuffel over a Russian "radar" station - weirdest radar building I've ever seen a photo of. US wanted it decommissioned under START 2 or something alphabet soup agreement, and the Russians said no, its just defensive radar and the US said no its against the arms control thingy. That installation - and I feel you know the tall dark blockhouse building Im talking about - was reportedly an offensive scalar weapon. Oh sure, turn half of it on and you get a "radar" beam. Turn the other part on and it was like the diagram you posted above.

Scalar field. I have trouble understanding scalar field. Using sound again as an example, bass notes. a Bassy sound track play it through a stereo hi fi ( minus any single sub woofer) lots of bass. Now reverse the wires on the back of one speaker. The bass goes away particularly if the speakers are close together. the antiphasing nulls out the bass waves. but there is an ambient field in its place. If you do this with the midrange and treble, you widen the stereo sound stage. SRS surround sound uses this priniciple. There is a field of ambience.

Now OK thats just an analogy. Can you give a simple description of what a Scalar field is HT. Like, just because the waves cancel out, it doesnt mean the energy has disappeared does it. Like with the bass example, one might still be pushing 50 watts of bass to the speakers but because there is an antiphasing when one speaker is wired in reverse to the other, one cant here it but the energy is still there though the resultant wave is nulled. The energy has to be somewhere. Cant breach the law of the conservation of energy.

Yea, I remember the South African thing. One rumour was that it was a joint Israeli South African nuke test. Not credible in my view. I dont know enough about scalar weapons to comment or have an opinion Id be game to post. I honestly dont see why not. It makes sense to multiply force over target in the manner pictured.

But though I can grasp something results from the interaction of two distinct em vectors, something beyond the em itself, I cant find a simple definition eg wiki gives * Scalar (mathematics), a quantity used to multiply vectors in the context of vector spaces
* Scalar (physics), a quantity which is independent of specific classes of coordinate systems
* Scalar (computing), an atomic quantity that can hold only one value at a time

So, can you explain what a scalar field is in the context we are talking about that I can grasp?