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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby langley » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:51 am

I think this is the radar that was allegedly part of the scalar weapon system:

"n 1988, when the Reagan administration complained that a large, phased-array radar located near Krasnoyarsk (Siberia) violated the 1972 US-Soviet ABM Treaty, the Soviet military denied the US charge, falsely claiming that the radar's sole purpose was to track artificial Earth satellites and other space objects. Shevardnadze's 1989 decision to admit the truth made him an enemy of the military establishment, which considered the decision to dismantle the radar as capitulation to the United States and a threat to Soviet security."http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/daryal.

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Yea, that's the one. I think. The conventional sources of course dont mention the scalar weapon potential.

On Tesla's missing papers. On arrival in Yugoslavia, the safe holding the papers (originally) was found to be sent without the key. The safe was eventually opened and the key was found inside. (weird place to put a spare key) and the papers were found to be missing.

Anyhow, it Electromagnetic radiation. It kind of is inherently complex.
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby langley » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:30 pm

I found this HT. Guess its as simple as it gets.
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/scalarweapons2.html
sorry about the ad at the top of this page.
1. THE DISCOVERY OF SCALAR WAVES

It all started in the 18th century with a Scotsman named James Clerk Maxwell.(1831-1879). He was a mathematical genius and his work led to the development of quantum physics which later led to Einstein�s Relativity. Maxwell�s equations linked electricity and magnetism and he discovered other waves that were higher than the normal hertzian electromagnetic waves. They are positioned at right angles coming off the electromagnetic wave and are omni-directional, whereas normal hertzian electromagnetic waves are only measureable with normal equipment and travel in a straight line. They are also called gravitic waves because they belong to the gravitational field. (Please see glossary for other names for scalar waves) Maxwell�s electromagnetic spectrum went higher than our 3D physical reality and into hyperspace where the fine indiscernable scalar waves exist. (Maxwell said they flowed in the ether/hyperspace). Scalar waves are so fine that they are only one-hundred-millionth of a square centimeter in width hence finer than X-rays and gamma rays. They can also be manipulated into various types of modes and frequencies. When Maxwell died his work was interpreted by three experts (including Hertz) who set the foundation for physics, and they decided any wave that went beyond what could be measured with an instrument of that time was "mystical" therefore worthless. According to Tom Bearden, standard physics (from then on) as a discipline, contained twenty two errors. Nicola Telsa, (1856 or 1857-1943) a Yugoslavian genius, who became a US citizen in 1891 carried on with Maxwell�s work. Tesla worked for Thomas Edison, who invented direct current, while Telsa himself invented alternating......."

Aha. A scalar wave is a secondary vector resultant. I see. If Ive got it right.

If the EM wave is a big truck, the scalar wave is the wind a bystander feels when the truck at speed passes by. So when two EM waves interact, there's a scalar field resultant from the transverse secondary vectors of each EM wave.

A speaker builder would, in the sound analogy of this, curse the transverse resultant sound wave that comes from a speaker as "baffle diffraction".

If Im understanding this correctly.

just to flog the audio analogy to death, "scalar"
speakers

http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/du ... aluna.html
ha ha sort of.
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Scaling up

Postby Griffin » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:10 pm

Yes, Langley –

I personally believe that there is great potential in the exploration of the applications of scalar waves -- unfortunately, probably for both construction and destruction.

M. le Trekfox –

What’s your critique of this?

As ever, right angled and omni-directional,

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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby htmagic » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:32 pm

langley wrote:<SNIP>Can you give a simple description of what a Scalar field is HT. Like, just because the waves cancel out, it doesnt mean the energy has disappeared does it. <SNIP>
So, can you explain what a scalar field is in the context we are talking about that I can grasp?

Paul,

I'm having trouble grasping it myself. A scalar field has no direction vector. So maybe it is like a pebble in the water and all waves spread from the center. That's the best analogy I have in trying to understand this thing.

Remember, Dr. Brown followed Tesla and Tesla said there was an aether. So a "radio man" and a "radar guy" would know all about harmonics and resonance. Maybe Dr. Brown saw two radar waves interacting and detected a gravity wave from it? Pure speculation but it could be possible. We know electromagnetics has a frequency spectrum and apparently so there is a gravitic spectrum as well. But other than using capacitors and the rocks as detectors, I don't know how to pick it up. Now Mikado's posts over on the HC seemed to indicate that there are gravitic antennas but I don't know how to build one, much less tune it... Next time I go into RadioShack and one of those dweebs asks me "Can I answer any questions you may have?" instead of asking why we don't have free energy receivers like Tesla envisioned over 100 years ago, I might ask them how to make and tune a gravitic antenna! LOL! ;)

So maybe this scalar wave tickles the aether and the aether reacts by sending out a gravitic wave? Anyone? Mikado? Help us understand this thing...
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby langley » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:47 am

Hmm, radio silence.

The thing is, EM wave interactions and scalar fields are not simple.

If for example I was asked even make a simple crystal set radio, I couldnt. I would have to buy a kit and assemble it according to the instructions. Thats just straight rf reception.
Still EM.

How, and I think this is the nub of Karen's thread, how em relates to gravity - well its going to be more complex than understanding how a crystal radio works.

My personal picture is this. The Void, the vast bulk of the cosmos, is a vast field, an EM field or multiple fields if you will, where the energy density is not uniform. Where the energy density becomes sufficient, a transform takes place and particles emerge. (sounds like crap, but thats the best I can do). So particles are stuff that comes out of energy stuff where the energy stuff is very dense or intense. So particles are em in origin and importantly the em forces are important in atoms. Both in terms of the electron and in terms of nuclear tension - em repulsion of protons against protons exists as a tension against the nuclear force which is exerted by neutrons to force the protons to stay together. So functionally one cant throw out em in nuclear science as was done in 1934.

But of course, its a two way street and if one snaps apart a suitable atom, one reverts some of the stuff back to pure em (mass loss during fission for example)

Now given that matter has an em origin and an em nature, and given that gravity and mass are related, one might expect, logically, that gravity, (which does not exist apart from mass in the normal course of events) has also a root in em. Because its the result of a dense energy field manifesting as matter. E = M. (inversely dependent upon a constant, the speed of light. Maxwell again. (who got into because of his mate Faraday. )

Thats my take.
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby KarenAnn23 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:52 am

A Q. If matter is mostly empti space....and the expaination of light ....why when it's light outside...I pull the shades down, not light comes threw..

Or it is coming threw in a spectrum I can't see??
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby KarenAnn23 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:20 pm

Could this have something to do with the elusive Eather??

Karen

Similar to why couldn't you walk threw a wall, do you know what I mean , anyone ? If matter is mostly made of empti space why can't we walk threw stuff?? I'm not really looking for an answer to that just a weird thought..
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby langley » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:51 pm

KarenAnn23 wrote:A Q. If matter is mostly empti space....and the expaination of light ....why when it's light outside...I pull the shades down, not light comes threw..

Or it is coming threw in a spectrum I can't see??


Depends on the frequency of the light you are talking about Karen. Youre talking about ordinary daylight, which has a frequency which interacts with matter by reflection, absorption and refraction. When you pull the shades down, the light outside hitting it, some of it reflects back, some of it gets absorbed. In water, daylight will penetrate to a depth, but there is refraction.

Now, the non visible light - the part of the electromagnetic spectrum we cant sense includes infra red and ultra violent. Insects can see in ultra violet. Ever seen an ultra violet photo of a flower? We cant see ultra violet. Radio is light (part of the EM spectrum we cant see ) (its all light - whether we are bllind to it or not) passes straight through you blinds as if it wasnt there. Gamma rays would. Beta would loose energy being absorped to a degree. Alpha, like daylight, would be stopped by your shades.

OK, take your microwave oven. The microwaves (still light, still part of the EM spectrum) still invisible to us, well they would pass straight through you shades. But they wont pass through a microwave oven door. Why not? Because the holes of the metal mesh in in the door are the right size to catch the microwaves and earth them while allowing you to see into the micowave to watch the baked beans heat up. ie ordinary visible light can get through but microwave light cant get out.

From the point of view of physics, its all light, whether we can see it or not is irrelevant to definition of light. Einstien and Maxwell werent just talking about visible light when they waffled on about the nature of light and the speed of light.
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby langley » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:59 pm

KarenAnn23 wrote:Could this have something to do with the elusive Eather??

Karen

Similar to why couldn't you walk threw a wall, do you know what I mean , anyone ? If matter is mostly made of empti space why can't we walk threw stuff?? I'm not really looking for an answer to that just a weird thought..


It has to do with frequency. some frequencies pass through each other no problems. There is around us radio, heat, etc etc,visible light, usually passing through each other no worries. If we were finer matter, ie higher frequency, we would be able to walk through walls.

I think.

Ordinarily we cant walk through walls because of the way matter interacts with itself. Dissolving salt in water is something else. Up to the point of saturation, you can put salt in water, and it dissolves.

talking about atomic size scale is beyond the range of our perceptions so its not part of daily experience so it appears to be contrary to common sense and its not common sense. Its science, so things in science, even the words used, have not a common sense, but a special sense, a scientific sense. In physics the word Optics includes radar and radio. It doesnt just mean reading glasses. It doesnt just mean visible light.
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Re: Beginners Electromagnetism Class

Postby langley » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:06 pm

KarenAnn23 wrote:A Q. If matter is mostly empti space....and the expaination of light ....why when it's light outside...I pull the shades down, not light comes threw..

Or it is coming threw in a spectrum I can't see??



If there was a lot of gamma radiation coming in the house from outside, and you wanted to pull the shades down on it, the shades would have to be several feet thick and made of concrete. Gamma doesnt absorb very well. It does reflect, but not enough.

a transistor radio turns radio frequency into sound. A TV turns FM radio into sound and vision. that is, those devices decode information coded into specific frequencies of light (called RF) and carried by those signals. It is a form of using light to transmit encoded information.
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