Cutting through the BS

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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby Nancy_Hutchison » Tue May 13, 2014 1:30 am

The animals are dying from radiation poisoning.
response from Joe public: oh well, ho hum.

The Pacific ocean is highly contaminated with radiation, total collapse of certain species.
response from Joe public: guess I'm not going to eat fish

Humans grossly mutated from radiation poisoning.
response from Joe public: glad its not MY kid

http://enenews.com/hbo-genetic-passport ... otos-video

I have known about the effects of radiation poisoning for quite some time.
Don't know how much more BS I care to deal with.

To all those flapping their lips, doing nothing but criticizing what John and I are doing:
my response: have a nice day while you rot in hell.

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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby Mikado14 » Tue May 13, 2014 9:54 am

I want to comment on this but am restricted by time. I want to do it in the morning.

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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby LuisP » Tue May 13, 2014 3:02 pm

Nancy, from where I stand, is essentialy correct regarding those who will do "nothing but criticizing what John and I are doing."

Yes, may they rot in hell.

I too said so last September, and haven't changed my mind.
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby wags » Tue May 13, 2014 6:54 pm

LuisP wrote:Nancy, from where I stand, is essentialy correct regarding those who will do "nothing but criticizing what John and I are doing."

Yes, may they rot in hell.

I too said so last September, and haven't changed my mind.


That is because John and Nancy provide more amounts of BS than most people who have zero scientific credibility. Which of course is ironic given that Nancy started this thread.

Having a tech. agnostic mind is at least an open mind!!!! Data and evidence is the only thing that matters not the beliefs or ramblings of how much radiation is in the Pacific, They do not have any empirical proof and the plant stuff is another classic example of the blind leading the blind based on half baked and crazy ramblings of a narcissist (self confessed at that).

I myself studied Botany as part of my Agricultural studies and I am just to busy to even be bothered to go there given that the claimant has not provided all the relevant information and control is absent,

The shear level of your unswerving belief system Luis is admirable for its loyalty but I predict you may get quite upset when you realise just how mistaken you have been to place your trust in that bunch of 'entertainers'.

On the issue of superconductors in the human spine yet again ignorance reigns. On evolution we have all evolved from a common ancestor and all species are in permanent transition. Indeed a question posed to me was name a transitional species well I should really have said 'ALL' but of course that would not helped demonstrate how evolution is a fact for all intensive purposes.

When you decide to enter the realm of science, being cavalier with data and poo pooing the method because it excludes you is just tough live with it. Does it mean your idea is wrong? of course not but it means you have not proved it! I watched and listened painfully to Hobbit vs FB et al and never got to involved as it was futile to bother.

here is a saying that is apt here:-
"It is futile to remain wise when you are surrounded by fools."

So lets cut through the BS,
Is there a problem with radiation from Japan?
Probably

Do the Hutchisons practice science?
NO.

Do they have a theory?
Maybe, but there is a probability that it is a false claim because they are pathological liars, and they might not know themselves, or it is deliberate sociopathic / narcissistic behaviour.

Do you believe them.....

Personally I do not, it is up to each person to decide for themselves.
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby Soloma » Tue May 13, 2014 7:51 pm

Do you believe them.....

Personally I do not, it is up to each person to decide for themselves.


The big problem with your position is the whole time there existed an opportunity for you to get involved to find out for yourself. You chose not to and will therefor be subject to depending on what someone else tells you from which to assume from, instead of finding out for yourself.
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby wags » Tue May 13, 2014 8:56 pm

Soloma wrote:
Do you believe them.....

Personally I do not, it is up to each person to decide for themselves.


The big problem with your position is the whole time there existed an opportunity for you to get involved to find out for yourself. You chose not to and will therefor be subject to depending on what someone else tells you from which to assume from, instead of finding out for yourself.


Now that is a lie!!!
I was prepared to do all the maths and you know it, I did not hinder your futile and in the end vane attempt to do anything. I mean have you got anywhere....

No you have not, has there been a proper experiment? No and all because NH pulled the plug and sabotaged not one attempt on the Token but Two. Talk to FB about that fiasco,

I* found out quite enough and it just failed, period.
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby kevin » Wed May 14, 2014 5:11 am

IMHO,
There is no such place as hell, or heaven.
There are multiple dimensions.
All matter eventually becomes the planet, and will normalise to whatever condition exists or changes to.

This is a fabulous stunningly complex universe that is way beyond our current comprehensions.

By helping each other better comprehend the basics will lead to better solutions.
Bashing each other on the heads like Mr Punch is not the way to do it....surely???
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby LuisP » Wed May 14, 2014 1:51 pm

wags wrote:
So lets cut through the BS,
Is there a problem with radiation from Japan?
Probably

Do the Hutchisons practice science?
NO.

Do they have a theory?
Maybe, but there is a probability that it is a false claim because they are pathological liars, and they might not know themselves, or it is deliberate sociopathic / narcissistic behaviour.

Do you believe them.....
Personally I do not, it is up to each person to decide for themselves.

I* found out quite enough and it just failed, period.




Thinking .....

Lots of BS to cut through.
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby Soloma » Wed May 14, 2014 4:18 pm

By helping each other better comprehend the basics will lead to better solutions.
Bashing each other on the heads like Mr Punch is not the way to do it....surely???


You are of course right Kevin, however we all know Wags position towards the Hutchisons. I am just tired of the hypocrisy and would like to see this nuisance nipped in the bud.
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Re: Cutting through the BS

Postby wags » Wed May 14, 2014 5:32 pm

Soloma wrote:
By helping each other better comprehend the basics will lead to better solutions.
Bashing each other on the heads like Mr Punch is not the way to do it....surely???


You are of course right Kevin, however we all know Wags position towards the Hutchisons. I am just tired of the hypocrisy and would like to see this nuisance nipped in the bud.


Hypocrisy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lets see keep an open mind consider all outlandish notion, and on the other hand ban all dissenters of this. If your argument cannot stand vigorous scrutiny then just maybe it is.....

There is a tendency to call for bans and attempting to censor seems a repeating theme of you guys. I have attempted critical reasoning with you before Soloma and have concluded that it is futile. You have your view and I mine. The Huchisons did not send you a PM that outlined illegal activity if believed must be reported. With a threat by NH to boot that the Black Helicopter guys would swoop in a nab me was a source of much ridicule. Note no one got a visit.

Of course then we have the sorry saga of the Anti Social behaviour towards a locals and veiled threats. I wonder why I might have an antagonistic view. I am happy that I at least gave her over 950 attempts before she fled from the token because of her activities on the ground. Note at no time was she banned at one stage I even defended your right to spout your odd ideas. On presenting data links all where asked to provide links and Louis to his credit sorted with a lot of work the Fukishambles thread.

The Hutchisons said they were sorting the radiation, how has that gone after a year as FB said...

or to use a Battle of Britain analogy

When a discrepancy in plane losses was raised with Fighter Command Chief Dowding he replied. "It we are right the Germans will give up, if not the Germans will be in London in a week.

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