Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby Nancy_Hutchison » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:50 pm

kevin wrote:Wilhelm Reich,
http://rense.com/general27/reichs.htm
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby Nancy_Hutchison » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:58 pm

more looking at the Elephant...

the Jesus dude was married
First clue: He was called "Rabbi". A Rabbi was required to be married.
Mary Magdalene was his second wife. His first wife died (I think she was 18 years old when she died).
Information that was withheld by Constantine.

Some say the "Holy Grail" is womb, as in woman (man with the womb).
Some think the bloodline of the Jesus dude and his wife are the "Holy Grail".
I have been able to find that bloodline, and John and I are both in that bloodline.
Via our fathers.

More info here:
http://www.aniwilliams.com/magdalene.htm
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby LuisP » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:03 pm

wags wrote:Nancy, is really necessary to refer to the 'dude', it is quite offensive and I am an atheist!


FWIW,
I am a Catholic.
And I do not find it "quite offensive".

Quite endearing, actually.

Then again,
As if all that meant a thing ....
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby Nancy_Hutchison » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:09 pm

apparently the "Essene Folks"
have reappeared
in Oregon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI2f3RXCoIM

I think I'll drop by and give them a visit.

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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby wags » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:15 pm

LuisP wrote:
wags wrote:Nancy, is really necessary to refer to the 'dude', it is quite offensive and I am an atheist!


FWIW,
I am a Catholic.
And I do not find it "quite offensive".

Quite endearing, actually.

Then again,
As if all that meant a thing ....


or
Not is the thing...
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby LuisP » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:35 pm

wags wrote:
LuisP wrote:
wags wrote:Nancy, is really necessary to refer to the 'dude', it is quite offensive and I am an atheist!


FWIW,
I am a Catholic.
And I do not find it "quite offensive".

Quite endearing, actually.

Then again,
As if all that meant a thing ....


or
Not is the thing...


Nope.
I beg to differ.

"As if all that meant a thing" ... IS the thing.


You're forgetting your Kant, Wags ....
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby wags » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:01 am

LuisP wrote:
wags wrote:
LuisP wrote:
wags wrote:Nancy, is really necessary to refer to the 'dude', it is quite offensive and I am an atheist!


FWIW,
I am a Catholic.
And I do not find it "quite offensive".

Quite endearing, actually.

Then again,
As if all that meant a thing ....


or
Not is the thing...


Nope.
I beg to differ.

"As if all that meant a thing" ... IS the thing.


You're forgetting your Kant, Wags ....


I feel we may be looking at two different things here. It 'It "Not meaning a thing" to the original poster is the point, to some readers who have a very strong belief system it could be deemed offensive, not to all but to some and it is does not add anything constructive". Why not just leave out the 'dude' in this context, it is not rocket science! If she does she does, that is her choice, but she has been made aware that it could cause offense, so she should not cry foul if that happens.

Just because it is does not cause a poster a problem does not equate to not being accountable if it a problem to a third party. With the freedom to say and believe what you like comes an equally important responsibility for the consequences of what is said.

What is posted under your avatar / name is the full responsibility of that individual, I think we have all seen what happens when that does not occur.

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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby kevin » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:36 am

The whole belief system ,is part of the elephant in the room.
It is utilised in programming the multitudes for control.

Those who are firm believers, will kill to protect their belief.

Nancy is surely FREE, in the land of the free ,to call anyone whatever, if jesus objects, he should say so, if anyone ever actually existed as TOLD ( indoctrinated).
All of this god business ( it is) is control, it is mainly due to ignorance that such nonesense exists at all.

I see no reason whatsoever to have to bow down to what others believe.
The only way to unravel all of this is to puzzle out what and how universe operates and is, to be restricted as so many previously have been by an indoctrinated belief is futile.
Spooky things at a distance.....no those spooky things are within and without of You.
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby DavidG » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:44 am

Gotta watch for those Zealot Essenes...LOL.

Perhaps Constantine threw a wet blanket on their parade plans?

Since I don't give any passing bowel gas as to religion...or organized mind control....none of their books or historical records are more than toilet paper to me, except to understand how insane those insane people expect their laity to remain.

As for elephants, Ganesh holds more promise as to a monotheistic deity than any Jesus dude in my viewpoint...so let him stay with us, as long as his incense doesn't incense anyone.

Spooky action indeed, within.....didn't someone once say look there?

So what exactly are we discussing here?
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby wags » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:54 am

Kevin,

I said she can say it but is it wise? Respecting other beliefs systems is surely part of that equation. Just because you can does not mean you should.

It is irrelevant as to weather she is correct in the substance. It is a minor point but is in line with my own conclusions in relation to this. I to agree with Mikado:-

The Knights Templers as understood by common usage, were eradicated in King Edward I day. The crusader knights were not cuddle types but hard fighting zealots that also had a major financial influence.

Nancy is stating what John has stated that is all. There may be another Knights Templar but is extremely unlikely to be connected with the original. The movie 'The Da Vinci" code comes to mind and that is of course fiction.

Many of her points regarding the Bible is correct but she strays when she places invectives and insults towards Jesus or the Bible. I am not a believer but I can understand the impact that it can have. One of the reasons Nancy has problems with me is her low level appreciating that words are defined by the OED not Nancy Huchison. For any discussion to occur we have to at least agree on some of the words.
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