Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby LuisP » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:14 pm

Mikado14 wrote:To respect another's belief is merely to empower their belief structure when they are wrong, is that correct? Afterall, to have respect for another in their beliefs only prolongs the time until they see our truth.

Mikado



Brilliant.
And dangerous ....
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby LuisP » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:17 pm

DavidG wrote:
So we have ascertained the universe is a singular entity, which transmits it's secrets to specific locations, and through concerted effort, such as dowsing, one is privy to how the assemblage and structure is composed.

I like that approach, dont you? :D


Yes.
Some toilet paper, strangely, says the same.

Except you, it seems, need dowsing.

I don't.
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby LuisP » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:18 pm

The again, whatever, eh ?

We are all talking about the same thing, but in different languages.

I like that approach.
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby Nancy_Hutchison » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:34 pm

Mikado14 wrote:kevin,

You are absolutely correct, you don't have to respect anyone's beliefs.

To respect another's belief is merely to empower their belief structure when they are wrong, is that correct? Afterall, to have respect for another in their beliefs only prolongs the time until they see our truth.

Mikado


Mikado,
What is "truth"?
What is electricity? What is a volt? an amp? a watt?

I can get quite "offensive" by challenging a belief system in "what is electricity".

Is John levitating a cannon ball in "that video"? Or is something else happening?
I have hundreds of videos of the "Hutchison Effect". Months and months of time spent "filtering" the videos.
Looking. Looking for patterns. Really cool stuff found.

John was looking at high voltage between some special spark gaps he had made when the first "levitation" happened in his lab...listening to "static".
What did he see? Blue lines coming from the spark gaps. At the time of the "levitation event" the blue lines had formed an intricate pattern that looked like a flower.

John has been listening to and "creating" radio frequencies for over half a century. He says, "The information is in the static."
What does that mean? I'm not sure.
My deceased brother had an invention. He said he was shown how to build the invention by his father (who was dead) in a dream of his.
He would hook up some wires to the battery of a car, and by listening to the static, he could determine what was wrong inside the engine.

What is static?
We build mobile anti-radiation units. Have figured out a method to record the multi-band RF signal that John creates.
The units (Johnny Tubes) are self powering. You can hook up the transmission wire to speakers and hear what was recorded.
Every single Johnny Tube (and all the units creating in getting to the final working model) have been hooked up to my computer and i have recorded the signal that has been generated. I have posted images from my software of some of the Johnny Tube recordings. A jagged sine wave with an isochronic pulse--diamonds inside diamonds--a fractal ouroboros.

I play back each recording and John listens. "Static", lots of static.
The ones that do not "sound right" to John are rejected.
Countless tests done with Johnny Tubes and radioactive samples..and the ones John rejected.
The ones that "sound right to John" all bring the radiation down.
The "rejected ones" actually have brought the radiation levels up.

I have a different "hearing ability" than John.
"Inner ears". No, not "voices in my head"....that is another story... But tones, sometimes extremely high pitched.
One particular instance that happens repeatedly is when I am driving south out of Portland.
Every time, at a particular location I get a high pitched sound and "pressure". As I continue to travel, the sound/pressure disappears.
As if I am moving through a "field".

John and I both have great difficulty in being in large groups of people.
Speaking about my own experience (since I was very young) ... I would walk into a room and get blasted with images in my mind.
Early on, I realized these images were projections from what others were thinking. Many times words came with the images.
I used to take kids out of gangs in Minneapolis. Everyday at least 25 kids where at my house. Eventually I got to know their parents, most of whom were gang members. They "accepted" me. And many times I would be in a "meeting". I knew who had guns on them, and I knew what each person "felt" about me. Because I "saw" it, I "felt" it.

I tell you these things because there is more to observing than what we have been programmed to see.

Will we find "truth"?
I doubt it.
Hopefully we can find some better understanding of the Elephant in the Room.

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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby wags » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:07 pm

LuisP wrote:The again, whatever, eh ?

We are all talking about the same thing, but in different languages.

I like that approach.


It was ever thus...
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby Nancy_Hutchison » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:51 pm

wags wrote:
LuisP wrote:The again, whatever, eh ?

We are all talking about the same thing, but in different languages.

I like that approach.


It was ever thus...


Wags,

From what I have read concerning your situation, it has something to do with "bullying".
And I have pointed out that what you, Linda and Steve Clarke were doing at the Cosmic Token, was bullying.
You did not see what you were doing as bullying.

I point this out, because IMO people do not comprehend their words and actions as what other people perceive.

The discussion we have been having about my use of the words "Jesus dude"...interesting.
IMO words and actions create result wave patterns...create.
Cause and effect, action and reaction.
The reaction to my use of the words "Jesus dude" is a resultant wave pattern...
WITHIN the minds of men
The reaction is based of the programming of the mind.
"We battle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers in high places...for the minds of men."

What I type is "created within your mind".
As you read, you are hearing a voice.

Think about that.

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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby kevin » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:11 pm

Mikado14 wrote:kevin,

You are absolutely correct, you don't have to respect anyone's beliefs.

To respect another's belief is merely to empower their belief structure when they are wrong, is that correct? Afterall, to have respect for another in their beliefs only prolongs the time until they see our truth.

Mikado


It was questioned as to why I kept respect for You.
I do need to follow My own path, and to not become embroiled in anyone elses beliefs.
Whether they be right or wrong.
Maybe time will tell the truth????
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby LuisP » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:26 pm

kevin wrote: I do need to follow My own path, and to not become embroiled in anyone elses beliefs.

Kevin


Concur.

But what about Compassion ? not as a subjective concept, but as a everyday tool that either one brings along on his Walk, or doesn't. Compassion not as cry baby or utopic objective but as demonstration of one's inner core ? as a bridge between the Self and the Other ?

Compassion as proof of our Mankind, of our capacity to be Human and proof of some Intentionality ... and not just a simple fleshy materialization of energy inside a given frequency oscillated at a determined wave lenght following a unmoving line of universal transmission !

Compassion as, in fact, Universal Respect ? so as to achieve Universal Sensibility .... or, as some call it, Consciousness ?

We are not machines.

And I would hate to Walk alone.
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby wags » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:35 pm

Nancy,

I refer you to my previous answer, I cannot answer for others, I was not part of a bullying conspiracy, I asked assertive rational questions, your answers were not that rational at times. I appreciate you don't go in for that kind of thing, but I am an evidence based man and I saw no convincing evidence. Probably not
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Re: Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

Postby kevin » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:04 pm

LuisP wrote:
kevin wrote: I do need to follow My own path, and to not become embroiled in anyone elses beliefs.

Kevin


Concur.

But what about Compassion ? not as a subjective concept, but as a everyday tool that either one brings along on his Walk, or doesn't. Compassion not as cry baby or utopic objective but as demonstration of one's inner core ? as a bridge between the Self and the Other ?

Compassion as proof of our Mankind, of our capacity to be Human and proof of some Intentionality ... and not just a simple fleshy materialization of energy inside a given frequency oscillated at a determined wave lenght following a unmoving line of universal transmission !

Compassion as, in fact, Universal Respect ? so as to achieve Universal Sensibility .... or, as some call it, Consciousness ?

We are not machines.

And I would hate to Walk alone.


LuisP,
Sometimes Your words are way above My pay grade as such.
I didn't spend too much time in school, fishing was My game, off alone.
Didn't utter a word until I was five, My mother took Me to specialists who said I may never speak.
I sure was happy though.
Words confuse Me, often I don't have a clue what someone is meaning.

So forgive Me if at times I don't respond as expected, as I simply don't have the depth of words or their meanings as You so clearly do, basically I am a loner, not a pack type, not been able to read taught Me to observe instead, I could puzzle out books if they had plenty of pictures

Dowsing is this observation, coupled with the ability to switch focus rapidly, and I have brilliant hand to eye coordination.
There is something very attractive about Yourself that I really like, even if I hardly can understand what You are on about quite often.
Good to know You in this strange computer way.
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