Observations--discussing the Elephant in the Room

[Nancy_Hutchison]

<snip>
Accept that a person has a viewpoint
There is no right or wrong viewpoint

If we can't respect each other, and that a person has a particular viewpoint, then how can we exchange information?
And if we can't exchange information in this open thread, then I would appreciate having a private thread that Kevin and I can use.

Nancy

Smart advice, I will remind you of your words in the future.

Fine Nancy, the thread will stay but I have one request. Stop making comments about thread derailing and the subsequent chastisement that comes forth for the elimination of such was the purpose the private thread was made. I did that for both of you to converse and help in that regard and I feel I am getting crap about it. No good deed goes unpunished.

The more I attempt to be neutral the more I get drug into the fracas. Have your conversations, please, but I will only be responding when you bring my name into it as you did with the comparison to Linda and Steve Clarke which I am waiting for a direct answer in regard or a technical statement is made that is patently false.

Mikado

Mikado,
I did a scan through on my comments on this thread, trying to find the comment I made that you want me to address.
My apologies, I did not find it. Please link or copy and paste. I will answer your concern.
Nancy

Here is the link

viewtopic.php?p=34565#p34565

To me, the parallels between the situation with my now deceased brother and the conflicts with wags/Linda/Steve...even Mikado
are striking.

My curiosity lies within those parallels and how I am associated with Linda and Steve Clarke.

Mikado

thank you Mikado,
here is the quote within the context of what I was saying:

Bill would never answer your question, instead
He would make you change the question

my brother had an invention that listened to the static coming off the battery from a car
by listening to the static, he could determine what was wrong with the engine

John Hutchison has been listening to static for over half a century
He says, "the information is in the static."

When I step back and look at the situation that happened with Wags, Linda, Steve Clarke...and even here with Mikado...
and laugh, I see the
the spirit of my brother
who refused to answer your question, but made you change the question

and even here with Mikado....I see the spirit of my brother...who refused to answer your question, but made you change the question

I was referring to MY being like the spirit of my brother...and pissing people off
Wags, Linda and Steve Clarke all pissed off and shooting venom at me because I would not answer in the manner they wanted me to answer

and even here...with you...I do the same thing
the thing that used to get me so pissed off at my brother
I also do.

Nancy

[Nancy_Hutchison]

Nancy
Define Bullying?

thank you for asking
my definition of bullying is when a person (bully) wants something from another person (victim)
the victim does not provide (give) what the bully wants
so the bully then uses tactics to try to extract what he/she wants from the victim
these tactics can be many things, such as
physical force, name calling, attempts to discredit the victim, actions to alienate the victim from others, engaging others to take action against the victim

if you would like me to point out how you did these things to me, I will do so

how do you define bullying?

A bully seeks to control and manipulate the mind, emotions and reality of a target for only the purpose of control or if that fails elimination of the target.

Your list is incomplete.

interesting
does your addition happen, in your opinion, in all cases of bullying?

[wags]

Nancy,

Please do not project feeling I may or may not have. Incidentally doing that is a bulling behaviour.

[wags]

Nancy
Define Bullying?

thank you for asking
my definition of bullying is when a person (bully) wants something from another person (victim)
the victim does not provide (give) what the bully wants
so the bully then uses tactics to try to extract what he/she wants from the victim
these tactics can be many things, such as
physical force, name calling, attempts to discredit the victim, actions to alienate the victim from others, engaging others to take action against the victim

if you would like me to point out how you did these things to me, I will do so

how do you define bullying?

A bully seeks to control and manipulate the mind, emotions and reality of a target for only the purpose of control or if that fails elimination of the target.

Your list is incomplete.

interesting
does your addition happen, in your opinion, in all cases of bullying?

Yes, in real intentional bullying. Bullying behaviours are natural and will occur but they are not for the purpose of destroying another human soul.

[kevin]

Nancy_Hutchison,

I try to visualise lots of screens with different pictures upon each one all centred on one vector point, and I always adhere to fibonacci sequencing.
To jump onto an alternate screen requires having the field diameter that will clip across to that screens geometry( which is what DMT enables, imo.)

When absorbing DMT from other high concentrate entities, or naturally producing it your field then has the required diameter to access that alternate geometry.
A word about project rainbow, preston Nichols.
With a rainbow different diameters are seen creating different colours.

I can measure the field diameter of whatever I focus upon.
With humans it is rare to exceed 55 feet( not exactly feet, but very very close)
Think of their fields thus creating variant colours.

Mikado has recently on this thread provided a link back to previous discussions when He revealed some things about Himself that He struggles to contain.
You just mentioned Your brother.
Think about the story told of jesus going into the dessert for forty days and nights with only water.
Think of death been approached and DMT in abudance been released, lots of dimensions been instantly available( ready for the journey of our eternal selves to travel into?)
It's absolutely fabulous.
Kevin

[kevin]

I am trying to stay focussed upon this elephant.
Any chance perhaps of a seperate thread talking about bullies?
Kevin

[Mikado14]

Your right kevin, Nancy, wags and myself are guilty of this latest derailing. However, perhaps it is a part of the elephant. Maybe it too needs to be hashed over. I see progress being made in that Nancy and wags ARE communicating for once. They may not agree but at least they are less like two dogs sniffing each others ass and more like two people conversing.

Perhaps a part of the elephant is present.

Hell, I don't know, just an offered view.

Mikado

[kevin]

Your right kevin, Nancy, wags and myself are guilty of this latest derailing. However, perhaps it is a part of the elephant. Maybe it too needs to be hashed over. I see progress being made in that Nancy and wags ARE communicating for once. They may not agree but at least they are less like two dogs sniffing each others ass and more like two people conversing.

Perhaps a part of the elephant is present.

Hell, I don't know, just an offered view.

Mikado

Good point, and funny picture in My thoughts of nancy and wags.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ele ... tedIndex=0

Kevin

[Nancy_Hutchison]

Nancy,

Please define your symptoms as a statement saying you feel bullied is insufficient.

My apologies, I do not understand your words.

Yes you do. IMHO

okay, I'll try
tell me if this is a correct understanding of your words:
please define...state in detail?
your symptoms...ahhh...this is where I get confused...do you want me to state how I was harmed, how your actions hurt me?
saying you feel bullied is insufficient....my statement that I feel you bullied me is not enough, you need more.

Correct

I came onto the Pegasus and Cosmic Token forums with the specific intent of finding those already "up to speed" with John Hutchison's work...
Looking for a missing piece that would enable us to provide elimination of radioactive contamination in a broader area.
Before going onto Linda's forum, John and I spoke with her on the phone. We discussed the problems at Pegasus. She assured us that it would be different on her forum, and we would not have to go through proving the technology and all the disruptions that happened at Pegasus.

In the opening post at the Cosmic Token, there was much confusion, then I made it clear what my purpose was in being on the forum.
http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewt ... 9&start=10

Kevin was one of the first people posting on that thread at Linda's forum.
He repeatedly dropped info that was quite useful, and when I would get into deeper discussions about these things, you, Steve and Linda would derail the conversations....challenging the validity of the technology..in spite of the FACT that the subhead under Speculations is "A home for tamer and wilder thoughts. Not a place where you have to prove anything, but a place to throw ideas around and perhaps find inspiration." Something I repeatedly pointed out to you. But, the bully group was in full swing, and no need to "follow the rules". You (and the gang) would repeatedly quote me out of context.

My "symptoms"? Your actions robbed me of my time. Time I had allocated to find info...info that Kevin had and I could not get because of your actions.
Actions there were "against the rules of the Speculations subhead".
You contacted my neighbor and the county. Dug into the affairs of people that are close to John and I...tried to discredit them.
My symptoms? Prior to your involvement an agreement was made between the neighbors and the police, that the noise level we were at was acceptable. But now we had to spend funds to hire an attorney, and have more rounds of dealing with county officials...because of you.

You would not accept the criteria under which I agreed to post on Linda's forum...that I would not have to PROVE ANYTHING.
The very criteria of the Speculations section of the Cosmic Token forum.

Now the bright side of all this crap....
Kevin and I can discuss things here.
LuisP appeared out off "somewhere" and has become quite a hobbit, and even has a Johnny Tube installed.
You got kicked off Linda's forum...sorry (okay, not sorry) I find that highly amusing.

and perhaps...."God willing and that Jesus dude"
we can actually begin to communicate with each other

Peace. Be well.

Nancy

[Nancy_Hutchison]

Nancy,

Please do not project feeling I may or may not have. Incidentally doing that is a bulling behaviour.

what are you talking about?