Mikado14 wrote:On speaking of DMT.
I first heard about it in a conversation here on the farm with Dave and Pladuim. ("Dave" is the purported Morgan/JD/Logan/Blue/etc and Pladuim is a member of the forum)
Dave was at one time a grower and supplemented his income by the growing of marijuana. However, I don't believe he was all that knowledgeable as to growing it for the maximum and I also don't believe he understood the difference between male and female plants etc. He just grew seeds that he acquired. In discussing methods of growing, he didn't even understand the balancing of the soil as to ph for the growing of specific groups. His method of fertilization was crude at best. He was unaware of the availability of inexpensive nutrient testers. And then the subject of DMT came up.
He and Pladuim were talking about methods of extracting it from grass. I asked what kind of grass and he just pointed to the lawn. This is from the link provided by kevin in a previous post:
http://www.wisegeek.org/ wrote:Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is a powerful psychedelic drug, and a type of tryptamine alkaloid. It is a naturally occurring substance, found in various plants and animals, and in small quantities in the human brain, where its function is unknown. DMT is famous for its power. Though the psychedelic trip it creates only lasts 5 to 30 minutes when smoked, the effect is profound and remarkable, with the feeling that the user is transported to a completely different place, immersed in kaleidoscopic sounds and images. In its pure form, the drug is a white to yellow crystalline solid.
DMT has been consumed throughout history and into prehistory by indigenous peoples, especially in South America, where it is consumed during shamanic rituals and called ayhuasca. This is done by combining plant material that contains it with a monoamine oxide inhibitor, a special chemical that allows the drug to avoid digestion by the stomach and reach the bloodstream. Evidence of DMT consumption by indigenous peoples in South America stretches back to at least 2130 BC. A pipe made from puma bone of that age was tested positive for the substance. Smoking it would give the users visions and feelings that they associated with magical sources, putting them into contact with "spirits" they could consult on matters of plants, disease, etc.
Some of the most unusual psychedelic trip reports come from users of DMT, who report "revolving quadrate vortices," conversations with intelligent alien-type creatures, and so on. These reports are unusual because of their intensity and the sensation of meeting intelligent beings, which is reminiscent of what happens to many people each night in dreams. Though scientific investigation of the effects of the drug has been limited, cognitive science may be able to learn more about the human brain by seeing how it changes its operation in response to tryptamines. Spiritualists may be inclined to believe that the beings that people "meet" under the influence may actually exist on parallel planes, which has introduced alternate religious belief systems or worldviews based on the experience.
DMT is a powerful hallucinogen, meant to be carefully administered in a calm environment to someone who has prior experience with other psychedelic drugs. The drug is relatively rare due to the lack of commercial demand and the scarcity of people with the knowledge and motivation to isolate it from plants. Still, as a molecule, it seems like a terrain ripe for discovery. Untested speculations have argued that the DMT found naturally in the brain may be implicated in certain neurological states, and if it is artificially administered, it may pull these "switches and levers" in ways that can be more precisely characterized and studied. As the human brain is the most complex known object in the universe, determining the precise way in which it interacts with complex molecules like this may be one of the largest scientific challenges of all time.
I remember talk of tryptophan in turkey and tryptamine. I remember asking about the one being able to cross the blood brain barrier and has something to do with the release of serotonin. I also asked Dave if the tryptamine also caused the release of serotonin and perhaps that is something in common.
His response, "how the hell should I know, I just want to get high."
So, no need to go further with the remaining conversation but that is my extent on anything involving DMT.
Thanks for the link kevin.
Mikado
we are following along the same trail
I just checked a website that had plants with high concentrations of DMT
the vast majority are located in the southern hemisphere
remember what Kevin said about the flow on Earth being lopsided? and the southern hemisphere "weaker" than the northern?
I don't think it coincidence that plants with high concentrations of DMT are in the southern hemisphere
I am what people have defined as a "global thinker". That is the reason I despise current academic science and medicine.
Mikado---your statement about what Dave said, "he only wanted to get high" --- makes me want to shake the man.
Why would anyone put anything into their body if they did not know:
1. How the body works
2. How what is put into the body will affect the entire system
???
argh!
I used to take kids out of gangs in Minneapolis. Got to the point of having "conversation" with the parents (gang members).
I saw people so disgusted, so frustrated with life...that getting high was the only enjoyment they had.
Myopic. Silver Bullet. Magic Pill.
DMT---WTF is DMT?
do animals have pineal glands that are activated when they graze on the plants containing DMT?
do they get stoned? or is that the reason they see and hear so much better than we do?
did ancient humans have a diet that contained higher levels of DMT than what we have today?
millet has vitamin B-17, important anti cancer. 100 years ago millet was used extensively in the human diet, not so today.
we now "eat what they give us", not even considering how they bodies are designed...what is needed.
Nancy
