The day no one thought would ever come....don't count on it

[Mikado14]

Linda and I have come to some form of agreement.

She replied to an email I sent her in regard to Traveler whereas I said she should call him to verify that he made the post. That way, she could hear it from his own voice. Her reply was one of stating that both her and I were used by someone in perpetuating this....feud? In that vein, she wanted to start fresh.

In subsequent emails, she modified the request to simply be that if I removed her name, she would not speak of Mikado or Kim again (I added the Kim part).

So, I asked for the identity of the individuals she claimed was doing this for afterall, if she says that we were both being used, she must either have evidence to that end or she knows the identity of the person.

As a sign of good faith, I removed her name from the membership list.

I am awaiting her response.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

This is Linda's original message to me:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Call him


A change in the wind Mikado.

Its up to you.

if you want a chance to start fresh... (and leave alot of stuff
behind that has disadvantaged both of us and alot of other people.)
Now might be the moment.

If you can see what we are talking about there then maybe you will
understand. Totally up to you.

Linda

[Mikado14]

second email from Linda. I have highlighted my responses in blue so as to differentiate.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Call him


On 5/29/14, kim_c58 <kim_c58> wrote:
> I come home from work and there are two emails from you that are about as
> diametrically opposed as two emails could be.
>
> Is this what you mean by to "start fresh"?
>
> Yes, and I do wonder how you could send two emails that are so far apart in
>
> meaning. And you can wonder why I didn't go to your link to read it for it
> is apparent that from your emails, I see where it more than likely is
> headed.
>
> Speaking of "still being broadcast", do you remember all the personal
> information you posted back in the fall of 2011 that caused my parents a
> great deal of strife? Or the two individuals that showed up here? I was
> merely returning the favor.

Does that make it right? You and I have been " returning the favor"
for a long time now and my suggestion is that we have BOTH been under
an influence that has been using our emotions against both of us,
setting us up repeatedly to do exactly what we have been doing.

You have been harping on the fact that " people have been coming to
your doorstep" now for years. REALLY? I am not sure I believe that to
start with... or believe that I was actually the cause of it... you
have not exactly had friendly relationships with your neighbors for
years and yet you assume that I was the cause for whatever pain you
have suffered through your parents... The people who came to visit you
were NOT sent by me or CAUSED by anything that my husband happened to
do... and yet you have chewed on that bone insufferably...I am not
sure I believe any of that story....But I am sure that you do. Josh?
Did I send him? Or the others? WHO sent them.... regardless of HOW
they got there... your rage at me is misplaced but you have bought
into what you have been " fed" and you are still doing it. That way
you attack me and they all get off scott free. Is your need to be self
righteous really so strong that you fail to see the real enemy here?

But whatever... you used that to post information about me repeatedly
and IS STILL UP THERE ON THE HUT.... and thats alright with you?
Can't you see how you are being used?

Did you believe that it was alright to leak information which caused
an attack on my own daughter? Don't bother telling me it wasn't an
attack.... many others have concluded and acted on the information
that it indeed was an attack....not meant to kill but to " worry" and
her injury was not "meant" or they would have targeted her and not the
horse.... These are the people you are working with Mikado, whether
you know it or not.

Your parents may have been "worried".... My daughter is having to
learn to walk again...and don't give me any crap about not knowing
anything about it... it was YOUR actions that helped set up that
situation.....your associations... whether you recognize them or
not...... and I am having to learn to live with that....It has changed
her entire life, those around her, and me.....and if you think you
have been upset over "two guys coming to your door" You might imagine
how I am feeling.
>
> Now, again, is this what you mean by "start fresh"?

Precisely what I said.

Unless you want to continue with this.... (doing someone elses bidding
without realizing it.) I have always held you apart from what I
considered was the real threat. This is my last attempt to separate
the " real" Mikado from the force that is using him.

You can take this however you want to. It is your choice.

Bullshit regarding the Emails sent to you. There is nothing stopping
you from reading directly. Do you think that you are doing yourself a
favor by using this separation? And accepting their " transcripts?"
And just who do think is helping you do this? That person may be less
of a friend to you than you have believed.

Linda

As is quite evident, it appears she is twisting from what "others" are making me do to what is posted on the Hut as an excuse.

The most distressing item stated was how she was obliquely blaming me for her daughter falling off of a horse or some such accident or shooting the horse out from under her. If it wasn't enough to make a sick dog laugh it would and does concern me very much.

I told Linda that if she has evidence to even suggest of my involvement then if I were in her shoes, I would have reported it on the day it happened if it were my daughter. I also implore her to do so even now. Let's get this out in the open.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

My email is in blue with her responses in black

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: several things


> How about this. You want to start fresh? You don't talk about me and I won't
> talk about you. That is a start.
>
> No...... that leaves everything negative that you have said about me
> still on the HUT to be read and reread constantly over and over by
> newcomers. For me to " shut up" about you just leaves you the
> advantage. There will be no " start" without an agreement that some of
> those attacks should at least have an apology attached to them.
> Otherwise why should I quit?
>
> Its all part of a master program and you are simply playing your small
> part in it.
>
> and you are still playing into other hands Mikado. If you can't see
> it.... I can't help you.
>
> Linda
>

And now we can see how all of this has been a scam to have her name removed and posts removed and/or public apologies made. She fails to realize that she was the first to publish personal information back in September to December of 2011 on the Token to include my personal name.

No accountability

Mikado

[Mikado14]

And here is where I decided to remove her name as an act in good faith.
My words are in blue.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: several things


> "How about this. You want to start fresh? You don't talk about me and I won't
> talk about you. That is a start.
>
>
>
> Thats only a start if you post that you have removed my name from the
> membership roster.
>
> Start there.
>
> Linda

[Mikado14]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: several things


On 5/31/14, kim_c58 <kim_c58> wrote:
> somehow I missed this email
>
> Everything stays at the Token
> Everything stays at the Hut

That works for me. Each of us is responsible for the safeguarding and
legacy of each archive and the legacy that each will leave.
>
> Identify or supply evidence of those that I am playing into the hands of,
> otherwise, there is no one.

If thats what you want to believe. So be it. Not my problem.
>
> Neither one of us will issue preconditions. We either agree to stop
> posting/talking about each other or we don't.

The only precondition that I have is that MY NAME IS REMOVED FROM THE
HUT and an announcement to that effect is posted where the public can
read it as they browse the HUTS contents.

>
> And lastly, If you want your name off of the Hut, talk to Kim. Remember, it
>
> is her name on the ownership.

Oh I intend to remember that. Legally she is the owner of the HUT and
legally she is responsible for what has been said there

. I should think that she would be more than happy to see me off the
Membership list.... the sooner.... the better.....
I do not intend to ask her again. You deal with her.
>
> I await your evidence or identities of those mentioned above.

I am not playing that game Mikado. You want rid of me... remove my
name from the membership.... otherwise it will be all out war for as
long as it takes... but at my speed and at my convenience. My rules.
Not yours.

Take my name off the membership... post the notice publically and I
will walk away for good. Surely that is worth some effort on your
part.

Linda
>
> Mikado

Take note of this:

I am not playing that game Mikado. You want rid of me... remove my
name from the membership.... otherwise it will be all out war for as
long as it takes... but at my speed and at my convenience. My rules.
Not yours.

Let me get this correct....all I asked for was the identities of those manipulating her and I. She calls it a game? Is she one those involved? And then to say it is all out war...geez, what in the hell has it been? ...a squirmish? And of course it is always by her rules...she must have real fun to play Monopoly with as a child.

That is what this has been, a ruse, a scam, a manipulation.......a lie, just to get her name off of the membership.

[Mikado14]

Here is the final response from Linda after I sent her a copy of the first post in this thread.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Good faith move...now it is your turn


Here is the response Mikado. I do not need to specify who it is that
is controlling you.

Do you think that this controlling force can be named and identified?
REALLY? Look at your actions.... if that negative force does not exist
then you have to own up to your own actions totally on your own.

If you want to make yourself feel better by ignoring the
situation.... ( ala... if I can't name then, If I can not see them....
then they do not exist,,,) then you do that at your own peril.

Thats not my problem. If you have eyes and refuse to see, again that
is not my problem.

Leave my name off the Hut and I will never mention your name again.
You deal with your own problems in your own way. There is nothing else
that I owe you other than this note. Its all you are going to get from
me.

Linda

It is apparent that this imagined threat of manipulation to both Linda and I has only been a ruse. She used this to negotiate a "start fresh" and slowly manipulated it into removing her name from the membership. As a sign of good faith to negotiate, I removed her name from the membership. Currently, it is still not on the membership list and I will leave it as such for the moment.

I have posted these emails as a sign of the negotiations that were being attempted. I do not like to publicly put emails out there but then these were negotiations that failed. I feel that since I acted in good faith by fulfilling her request, well, someone had to go first. I felt that it would be futile.

So I have been made the fool of again. First on the Token and now with this. There will be no more opportunities for anything. She can go back to ranting and raving, claiming I am the black sub under the control of nefarious individuals but she really should be asking herself this question...how doesn't she know it is really the REAL Morgan who has put me up to this? He really is a nice fellow...once you get to know him.

Mikado

PS: there is another explanation...she is just plain old paranoid and everyone/anything is after her. Really, if there truly was an entity, they would have been here on my doorstep over two years ago when the first switch was thrown (I say this because she predicted that it would happen and we would have to move the shop rather quickly...)

[Mikado14]

Linda's original response is in black, My responses are blue and Linda's final response is in red

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Brown"
To: "kim_c58"
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Good faith move...now it is your turn


On 5/31/14, kim_c58 <kim_c58> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Brown"
> To: "kim_c58"
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Good faith move...now it is your turn
>
>
> Here is the response Mikado. I do not need to specify who it is that
> is controlling you.
>
> Uh....yes you do. If you are going to claim that someone is controlling your
> actions then you need to identify that person or present evidence or else it
> is nothing more than general paranoia

Some would call it faith Mikado
>
> Do you think that this controlling force can be named and identified?
> REALLY? Look at your actions.... if that negative force does not exist
> then you have to own up to your own actions totally on your own.
>
> I have always owned up to any action that I have taken and I have given the
> explanation on more than one occassion. Bullshit.
>
> If you want to make yourself feel better by ignoring the
> situation.... ( ala... if I can't name then, If I can not see them....
> then they do not exist,,,) then you do that at your own peril.
>
> From what you have said above, I believe you are chasing phantoms of
> paranoia and I will accept any peril that befalls me from any phantoms or
> unidentified negative entities. You can believe anything you want to. Not my problem.
>
> Thats not my problem. If you have eyes and refuse to see, again that
> is not my problem.
>
> I have eyes and I do see and so far there is nothing to see other than an
> assumption which is much like the black sub that has never been identified
> for the past 4 years. The black sub exists. I am not going to make it easy for you by naming them. You are your own worst enemy Mikado. And you are proving it now.
>
> Leave my name off the Hut and I will never mention your name again.
> You deal with your own problems in your own way. There is nothing else
> that I owe you other than this note. Its all you are going to get from
> me.
>
> Is that your final answer? You can not fulfill your end of the deal even
> though I acted in good faith?

I have no deal with you. If you put my name on the HUT I will take it
as an act to damage me. You might want to clear that with Kim before
you do that... Linda
>
> Linda

To quote rose..."is it me?" or does anyone else see where she claims she cannot name the entities but in the above response she refuses to name them....uh?

And can anyone see how she changes her personality throughout the emails until in the very end above she replies with words such as "bullshit" but yet if anyone wishes to search this forum they will see I have always owned up to my actions. And then her final act is to make an oblique threat.

I don't think so Ms Leach. Putting your name back up is putting it back due to a failure on your part to live up to a possible agreement.

Let this be a lesson to anyone reading who may or may not enter into any agreements with Linda Leach {nee Brown). She is not honorable.

Mikado

[kevin]

I was once working at a furniture store in Liverpool, a fight broke out( arranged) in the far corner of the store.
Everyone became focussed upon the fight, nobody noticed the furniture been removed out of the front doorway.
Clever these distractions tinkerbells.
Kevin

[wags]

I think it is really obvious that Linda is not a member anymore. Even to the casual visitor can work that from the shear quality of posts already on here! Does it really require a 'Linda is not here plague', that is counter to 'breaking the chord that is proclaimed on the plague!'. {

On one hand I am surprisingly pleased that you guys have continued to attempt safe detachment. On the other dismayed that I have read it.