by Mikado14 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:50 am
Let's look at the statement you posited:
"The problem lies also in that being possessed of different parts of the puzzle, we each are convinced that we are somehow "wiser" than the other."
First, one must know what the "puzzle" is.
Second, in order to understand the statement and derive meaning from it one needs to ask..."what is the problem?" ....as it pertains to the "puzzle".
Thirdly, the reader of the statement cannot know as to who/whom is wiser and can not make a judgement or carry an opinion.
However, one can look at the statement in general to say that when posed with a problem, two individuals can look at the problem from two different points of view. The two may look at their personal view as being "wiser" than the other but then what does that say to an objective observer? Are both being arrogantly subjective? Hell...I don't know. But I can see where such a situation could present problems in that both want to be right/correct. In that scenario, no one wins, nothing gets accomplished and in some instances, it is a lost cause. Inevitably, both lose and no one gains and different directions could be had.
A similar problem occurred between myself, Gregg V and Trickfox. Back in 2008 when we decided to experiment and build a Gravitor, Trickfox insisted that we needed to derive equations and understand the equations that were in the papers we called the Kitselman math. What Trickfox could not see and could not answer was how could one derive engineering equations without the data to derive them from? His only response was that we could do that after we understood the Kitselman math. If Trickfox would have had the formal education in math that others had, he would have seen that the math was nothing more than force equations derived from a set of data points. He never did go anywhere with it and instead decided to devote his time to translating the French papers from Cornil(l)on. He then took up calling me a "chicken wire" engineer and then subsequently backpedaled on that. As my signature says, when the debate is dead, slander is the tool of the loser and all one has to do is to look to the Cosmic Token of late and see that it is the banner being waved by those there. I never slandered Tricfox.
Is my story similar to what you are saying?
Mikado
The thing about Inner Circles is that they are like Boxes - difficult to think outside of them.
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